Considering leaving scientology? Listen to your heart…

[sallydannce]

It is not suppressive, evil or crazy to want to leave scientology. To want to give it all up. To live life the way you want to live it.

Listen to your heart.

What does that mean? Listen to your heart?

Perhaps it is that niggling “noise” in your head, in your belly, which you try so hard to ignore. Perhaps it’s those thoughts you keep squashing and pushing deep inside. Those thoughts that you sneer at and tell yourself you are out-ethics. Those thoughts you won’t – or cannot - let yourself quietly explore.

Those thoughts like “there’s something wrong here, is it the management…”

“I can’t sustain this level of donating, the demands upon me…”

“I’m not making any progress on the bridge, is it really all my fault…”

“I am so tired and worn out from the endless battles within this group….”

“I am so over being in so much debt! I don’t feel free…”

“Why don’t I actually feel better than I do…”

"All this talk of expansion, how come I am not really seeing expansion in my area..."

I don’t have to list out loads of “enemy thoughts”, you will know exactly what I mean.

In scientology these “enemy thoughts” have to be gotten rid of. You either do it yourself by ignoring or squashing them - or the groups handlings are applied.

But what if those thoughts are your guidance, your very own personal instinctive guidance?

Consider taking some quiet time for yourself. Isolate yourself and reflect. Listen to your heart. What do you feel deep inside? Ignore, with dignity, the reges that will phone, the ethics personnel that will try to handle you. You have the right to some solitude to listen to only yourself. Trust yourself.

Respect yourself, listen to your heart. Cling tightly to your own inner guidance and trust yourself. You know what is best for you.

Deep inside, each of us know our own truth. Without the voices of our upbringing, our religion, the input from outside sources, we know our own truth.

Trust yourself.

Listen to your heart.

[LA SCN]

Very nice post and great invitation to those whom we were once.

[I told you I was trouble]

What a beautiful thread ... yes, all of you lovely people that are carefully and quietly thinking those thoughts that you 'shouldn't' be thinking about scientology (you know the ones) ... keep thinking them as you walk out the door, we all did it and it feels wonderful!

There are intelligent people here that did the whole bridge (both sides) and found there was absolutely nothing there, you don't have to do that and you don't have to explain yourself to anybody ever again.

[HelluvaHoax!]

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There are intelligent people here that did the whole bridge (both sides) and found there was absolutely nothing there, you don't have to do that and you don't have to explain yourself to anybody ever again.

I've looked at the Bridge from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow
It's Bridge illusions I recall.
I really don't know-how-to-know everything, at all.





Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere, i've looked at clouds that way.
But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone.
So many things I would have done but clouds got in my way.

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
From up and down, and still somehow
It's clouds illusions I recall.
I really don't know clouds at all. . .

[HelluvaHoax!]

It is not suppressive, evil or crazy to want to leave scientology. To want to give it all up. To live life the way you want to live it.

Listen to your heart.

What does that mean? Listen to your heart?

Perhaps it is that niggling “noise” in your head, in your belly, which you try so hard to ignore. Perhaps it’s those thoughts you keep squashing and pushing deep inside. Those thoughts that you sneer at and tell yourself you are out-ethics. Those thoughts you won’t – or cannot - let yourself quietly explore.

Those thoughts like “there’s something wrong here, is it the management…”

“I can’t sustain this level of donating, the demands upon me…”

“I’m not making any progress on the bridge, is it really all my fault…”

“I am so tired and worn out from the endless battles within this group….”

“I am so over being in so much debt! I don’t feel free…”

“Why don’t I actually feel better than I do…”

"All this talk of expansion, how come I am not really seeing expansion in my area..."

I don’t have to list out loads of “enemy thoughts”, you will know exactly what I mean.

In scientology these “enemy thoughts” have to be gotten rid of. You either do it yourself by ignoring or squashing them - or the groups handlings are applied.

But what if those thoughts are your guidance, your very own personal instinctive guidance?

Consider taking some quiet time for yourself. Isolate yourself and reflect. Listen to your heart. What do you feel deep inside? Ignore, with dignity, the reges that will phone, the ethics personnel that will try to handle you. You have the right to some solitude to listen to only yourself. Trust yourself.

Respect yourself, listen to your heart. Cling tightly to your own inner guidance and trust yourself. You know what is best for you.

Deep inside, each of us know our own truth. Without the voices of our upbringing, our religion, the input from outside sources, we know our own truth.

Trust yourself.

Listen to your heart.

A magnificent & precious invitation...loved it.

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[GoNuclear]

It is not suppressive, evil or crazy to want to leave scientology. To want to give it all up. To live life the way you want to live it.

Listen to your heart.

What does that mean? Listen to your heart?

Perhaps it is that niggling “noise” in your head, in your belly, which you try so hard to ignore. Perhaps it’s those thoughts you keep squashing and pushing deep inside. Those thoughts that you sneer at and tell yourself you are out-ethics. Those thoughts you won’t – or cannot - let yourself quietly explore.

Those thoughts like “there’s something wrong here, is it the management…”

“I can’t sustain this level of donating, the demands upon me…”

“I’m not making any progress on the bridge, is it really all my fault…”

“I am so tired and worn out from the endless battles within this group….”

“I am so over being in so much debt! I don’t feel free…”

“Why don’t I actually feel better than I do…”

"All this talk of expansion, how come I am not really seeing expansion in my area..."

I don’t have to list out loads of “enemy thoughts”, you will know exactly what I mean.

In scientology these “enemy thoughts” have to be gotten rid of. You either do it yourself by ignoring or squashing them - or the groups handlings are applied.

But what if those thoughts are your guidance, your very own personal instinctive guidance?

Consider taking some quiet time for yourself. Isolate yourself and reflect. Listen to your heart. What do you feel deep inside? Ignore, with dignity, the reges that will phone, the ethics personnel that will try to handle you. You have the right to some solitude to listen to only yourself. Trust yourself.

Respect yourself, listen to your heart. Cling tightly to your own inner guidance and trust yourself. You know what is best for you.

Deep inside, each of us know our own truth. Without the voices of our upbringing, our religion, the input from outside sources, we know our own truth.

Trust yourself.

Listen to your heart.

This what you get when you refuse to put ethics in on yourself and you allow your reactive mind to take over ... you get this namby pamby dilletante reasonableness. The next thing you know, you will be listening to the enemy line on the internet, stuff about LRH being a con man, not being a war hero, not healing himself, that he flunked out of college, that his music sucked and other things like that. If you keep on listening to your reactive mind, you may find yourself wanting to buy cars, houses, and vacations instead of going into debt for a few hundred hours of book and bottle torture. This tale of reasonableness and panty waisted dilletantism should serve as a warning to the rest of you wannabe espees who are putting your entire future track in jeopardy.

Fortunately, your abberation can be handled over at Flag in just a dozen or so expensives of auditing.

Pete

[uniquemand]

I'm out. I still don't care about cars and houses, or any other physical creations. I only care about empathy, communion, and self-discipline.

For me, the bells that went off were when I noticed that the esprit-de-corps was almost entirely about "production" (money and prospects for the Church), and not about making the world a better place, nevermind starting with your own life or your fellow staffers and public. There is NO empathy, in fact it's considered reactive, because they mistake it with compulsive sympathy. There is no sense of shared reality beyond stats and promotion. Self-discipline IS encouraged, but only if it results in more production on-post.

It's an ugly group.

Get out.

[Claire Swazey]

Lovely thread. I agree. It's something I've said to people, too.

I think there are times when our hearts were telling us certain things and we were deafened by indoctrination and cultic pressure. I remember a lot of "this doesn't seem right" and various thoughts. Sometimes other people said things, too, though that was discouraged.

[Free to shine]

Fortunately, your abberation can be handled over at Flag in just a dozen or so expensives of auditing.

Pete

But only for a short time ... as soon as you have some peace away from the drama and pressure, those 'enemy thoughts' come back.

[Claire Swazey]

What comes back? The aberrations? The Flag thingies?

Either way, I'm sure that I like what you wrote.