Quentin Hubbard - cover up and erasure

[xguardian]

Calling someone OSA is the ESMB version of "yo momma," sticking out your tongue, or saying "I know you are but what am I."


I have zero problems seeing Hubbard as a human being but you have to recognize that he was at the very least a terrible husband and father. If cared a bit about Quentin as a person, perhaps things would have turned out better for the poor boy. What was not true for Quentin was Scientology.

I do have a problem reading long, rambling conspiracy theories which contradict the information provided by Denise Brennan, Vaughn Young, David Mayo, Face, Dart, Lakey, and others who have been honest and forthcoming about their own actions as well as what they witnessed.

Quentin's death was a tragedy but I can't see that it's linked to everything that happened in global politics at that time.

OK, Vaughn also says LRH was murdered. He was close to LRH. I was close to Quentin. He was not suicidal. The allegations that he attempted before, are not substantiated. He was full of life. My GO associate in PR who had his homosexuality handled in life repair also befriended Quentin and his "gay-dar" told him Quentin was not gay. It will never be solved if it was suicide. If it was murder it has a very small chance of coming to light. My long rambling is in part a little cathartic I imagine, but it is what it is. LRH would not kill his son. But as the thread title denotes; his death was covered up. The way it was covered up showed pro's were involved. There was none of the mysterious deaths and signs of infiltration and intrigues until after Quentin's death. From my viewpoint,starting from when they tried to kill me. I had good Intel afterwards as I was still Army reserve. But I know how scary it must be to some if I and others are right... and IRS and friends did conspire, murder and takeover CoS and turn them into the american version of Interpol, a privately owned Intelligence gathering organization with Nazi origins but now vetted and anointed by those they resisted.And cloaked in a religious 501-C-3 status.

[Elapid]

exguardian, you lie! You did not have a private conversation with Quentin when he and his siblings visited Sacramento in the 70’s and you definitely had no relationship with him afterwards. I was there at the public event, the staff only event and the private gathering with Quentin, et al. I have the exact details… And the only person who tried to kill you was a young kid who emptied a .22 rim fire revolver at you after you accidentally stumbled into him and his pals rifling through parked cars. You were damned lucky to only catch one round. I witnessed that incident. I know you and your history at Sac. I exposed you as a fraud on this board once before with specifics. Beat it before you embarrass yourself again.
Elapid

[Lone Star]

No I am not I am connecting IRS/Interpol with takeover. But, If I or anybody could prove it, it's the biggest story of the century outside of if JFK assassination proved government duplicity.

Talk about hyperbole!

[xguardian]

exguardian, you lie! You did not have a private conversation with Quentin when he and his siblings visited Sacramento in the 70’s and you definitely had no relationship with him afterwards. I was there at the public event, the staff only event and the private gathering with Quentin, et al. I have the exact details… And the only person who tried to kill you was a young kid who emptied a .22 rim fire revolver at you after you accidentally stumbled into him and his pals rifling through parked cars. You were damned lucky to only catch one round. I witnessed that incident. I know you and your history at Sac. I exposed you as a fraud on this board once before with specifics. Beat it before you embarrass yourself again.
Elapid

You are the liar and still OSA. You only have a copy of the police report from GO files. I did not tell them how it went down exactly. They were not kids, they were old enough to take a contract idiot. You just proved it again. You read from the file... .22 rim fire. All .22 are rim fire. You even put the .22 like it says right in front of the file you are looking at now! I researched all your posts on ESMB as anyone can do and almost all the time you are naming people and asking where they are? I got shot at the 18th street Org and you posted you went by recently and it was boarded up etc... and everyone at the Org knew for a year we were moving to 15th st. caddy corner from the Memorial auditorium. You don't even live in Sac like you pretend. You cannot go downtown without passing the Org and it's giant sign. You claimed you were outside smoking when I got shot...that's a lie. I flushed you out last time and here you are again. Lurking....Who was ED then who was CS then who was EO then who was HCO then?

[xguardian]

You are the liar and still OSA. You only have a copy of the police report from GO files. I did not tell them how it went down exactly. They were not kids, they were old enough to take a contract idiot. You just proved it again. You read from the file... .22 rim fire. All .22 are rim fire. You even put the .22 like it says right in front of the file you are looking at now! I researched all your posts on ESMB as anyone can do and almost all the time you are naming people and asking where they are? I got shot at the 18th street Org and you posted you went by recently and it was boarded up etc... and everyone at the Org knew for a year we were moving to 15th st. caddy corner from the Memorial auditorium. You don't even live in Sac like you pretend. You cannot go downtown without passing the Org and it's giant sign. You claimed you were outside smoking when I got shot...that's a lie. I flushed you out last time and here you are again. Lurking....Who was ED then who was CS then who was EO then who was HCO then?

36 years later and you have all the details? Yes you do in the file. Yes you are right I told the police I thought it was a revolver small caliber 22 or 25. I told them verbally. The cops knew to write down .22 not 22 and obviously you don't know all 22 are rim fire and wouln't know to correctly use the decimal .22 except you have report. ...my report was short and sweet as the ambulance got there at same time police did.

[xguardian]

exguardian, you lie! You did not have a private conversation with Quentin when he and his siblings visited Sacramento in the 70’s and you definitely had no relationship with him afterwards. I was there at the public event, the staff only event and the private gathering with Quentin, et al. I have the exact details… And the only person who tried to kill you was a young kid who emptied a .22 rim fire revolver at you after you accidentally stumbled into him and his pals rifling through parked cars. You were damned lucky to only catch one round. I witnessed that incident. I know you and your history at Sac. I exposed you as a fraud on this board once before with specifics. Beat it before you embarrass yourself again.
Elapid

Go ahead tell my "History at SAC." I will 'out' my ID you 'out' yours!

[xguardian]

You are the liar and still OSA. You only have a copy of the police report from GO files. I did not tell them how it went down exactly. They were not kids, they were old enough to take a contract idiot. You just proved it again. You read from the file... .22 rim fire. All .22 are rim fire. You even put the .22 like it says right in front of the file you are looking at now! I researched all your posts on ESMB as anyone can do and almost all the time you are naming people and asking where they are? I got shot at the 18th street Org and you posted you went by recently and it was boarded up etc... and everyone at the Org knew for a year we were moving to 15th st. caddy corner from the Memorial auditorium. You don't even live in Sac like you pretend. You cannot go downtown without passing the Org and it's giant sign. You claimed you were outside smoking when I got shot...that's a lie. I flushed you out last time and here you are again. Lurking....Who was ED then who was CS then who was EO then who was HCO then?

I'm waiting...have to get files on those names?

[Elapid]

I knew you before and during the time you were in the G.O. at the Sac Org in the 70’s and one thing has not changed and that is you are a fraud. You lie or at best greatly exaggerate your past before, during and after scientology. The only reasons you post on this board are to impress others to gain admiration through deceit or otherwise push buttons in order to disrupt.

The facts are you spent little time as a scientologist. You have very minimal technical training and no experience in Tech or Qual. You’ve only basic staff training and no executive training. The G.O. post you briefly held was a title only. You blew the G.O. because your former bosses, the A/G and DA/G Sac, Glen & Yuby Wahlquist, caught on to your incompetence and lies. Your biggest accomplishment in scientology was strutting around in a karate gi and brown belt trying to impress others by demonstrating your silly skills at Friday graduation. That’s the short but accurate account of your scientology experience. End of story.

Does the truth hurt? Or are you so dim-witted as to think anyone familiar with your posts actually believes your BS? You have absolutely nothing constructive to offer to this board. Try doing something decent like stop wasting the time of the well intentioned people here.

I don’t out people even someone as pathetic as you. In your case there’s no need to. I’m done with you so don’t bother.

Elapid

[Elapid]

Ps. Besides my .22 rim fire target rifles I own a 3 rifles also in .22 caliber: .223, 22/250 and .22 Hornet and these are center fire cartridges. Gee Whiz.

[Elapid]

Veda, I apologize for contributing to the derailment of your thread about Quentin. It was real stupid of me to get sucked into that.

Elapid