making a case for GE's

[Mimsey Borogrove]

I was thinking about this today - what I didn't like about Hubbard's GE theory is that you would need 6 billion of them for the human bodies alone. To me it makes more sense, that there is a parallel universe, or perhaps there is an aspect or dimension to this universe that is slightly out of phase, vibration wise. We wouldn't perceive it, but the life in the cells would respond to it.

There would only have to be one template for a human body, it would contain the development stages through out the life span of the organism. If it were holographic in nature, any body that has the proper DNA and the 2 parent cells dividing could follow the template, getting "stylistic" clues from the DNA ( skin color, size of body parts, eye color etc. ) and the cells start following the pattern of the template and begin assuming the identities of the different organs and growing into them as the body grows.

So any body on this planet would conform to the holographic template. You could expect a different template near Triton (or which ever of Saturn's moons they feel may have methane based life forms) that life follows there.

There are many things in life that can not be explained very well except via the holographic concept. For my personal observations, I have seen RIs (reliable Items - parts of the GPM), gold balls ( anchor points) and have looked through my body and seen the greyish bones with in. None of these things were perceived with my eyes, rather my spirit observed them. I have had many prescient moments, from catching things that fell slightly after I (reactively? Anticipatory?) positioned my hand in the right place, avoding (or not) an accident, etc. And these lead me to believe there is something more than we can readily observe. Perhaps it is composed of the dark energy or matter that is allegedly there.

So it makes my wonder, we know so little of how life works, that we can't replicate all that a cockroach does with modern computer technology, that perhaps there is a holographic template which life follows. Why does a cat die after 18 years give or take? Or a tortoise last 100+? So many things in life seem to be marching to a program. Perhaps there is one? Seldom do you see a 200 year old house cat - it all sticks to the tune being played.

Think of a computer - the machine could be analogous to the material universe, the operating system analogous to life's template, all of the programs, (word processes, spread sheets, etc. are like the body types - lion, cheetah, duck, people) and what we see on the screen is the world we see with our eyes. In other words, there is a lot going on behind the scene we are not aware of, any more than your dog is aware of the internet.

Anyway, that is my idea - what do you think of it?

Mimsey

[guanoloco]

I was thinking about this today - what I didn't like about Hubbard's GE theory is that you would need 6 billion of them for the human bodies alone. To me it makes more sense, that there is a parallel universe, or perhaps there is an aspect or dimension to this universe that is slightly out of phase, vibration wise. We wouldn't perceive it, but the life in the cells would respond to it.

There would only have to be one template for a human body, it would contain the development stages through out the life span of the organism. If it were holographic in nature, any body that has the proper DNA and the 2 parent cells dividing could follow the template, getting "stylistic" clues from the DNA ( skin color, size of body parts, eye color etc. ) and the cells start following the pattern of the template and begin assuming the identities of the different organs and growing into them as the body grows.

So any body on this planet would conform to the holographic template. You could expect a different template near Triton (or which ever of Saturn's moons they feel may have methane based life forms) that life follows there.

There are many things in life that can not be explained very well except via the holographic concept. For my personal observations, I have seen RIs (reliable Items - parts of the GPM), gold balls ( anchor points) and have looked through my body and seen the greyish bones with in. None of these things were perceived with my eyes, rather my spirit observed them. I have had many prescient moments, from catching things that fell slightly after I (reactively? Anticipatory?) positioned my hand in the right place, etc. And these lead me to believe there is something more than we can readily observe. Perhaps it is composed of the dark energy or matter that is allegedly there.

So it makes my wonder, we know so little of how life works, that we can't replicate all that a cockroach does with modern computer technology, that perhaps there is a holographic template which life follows. Why does a cat die after 18 years give or take? Or a tortoise last 100+? So many things in life seem to be marching to a program. Perhaps there is one? Seldom do you see a 200 year old house cat - it all sticks to the tune being played.

Think of a computer - the machine could be analogous to the material universe, the operating system analogous to life's template, all of the programs, (word processes, spread sheets, etc. are like the body types - lion, cheetah, duck, people) and what we see on the screen is the world we see with our eyes. In other words, there is a lot going on behind the scene we are not aware of, any more than your dog is aware of the internet.

Anyway, that is my idea - what do you think of it?

Mimsey

There are theories of gravity and dark matter being manifestations from other dimensions - that is to say there's no physical representation "here" but their existence is felt.

[Innominate Dude]

I was thinking about this today - . . .

Anyway, that is my idea - what do you think of it?

Mimsey

What you propose sounds very similar to the worldview of many transpolar shamans. Meeting with such overarching spiritual keepers of a particular life form in a realm beyond the physical world is one of the prime objectives of the "shaman's journey", a central activity of shamanism. The shaman is important to a transpolar society because of this ability to negotiate with and comprehend the overarching or supervising spirit of various life forms, which is thought to effectively constitute a pact between humans and all those life forms because of the central controlling role of the spiritual keeper of them all. I would think their literature, to the extent it can be found, tends to offer the sort of anecdotal evidence for considering such things to exist or not.

[Mimsey Borogrove]

guanoloco Re: making a case for GE's Here's more on the evolution of the eye.

You know Guanloco, my beef with evolution in this case ( some function magically starts from nothing - I have no beef with evolution as a live for specializes over time to use a portion of the environment better) is this - light falls on an organism - why then does one cell or group of cells decide to react to light and develop a nerve to send it to the brain and the rest don't.

I think the concept, it all evolved from mud is utter bs, but hey! If people want to believe that - go for it. To me, it is obvious some one or some thing decided that an eye was needed and via some process unknown to "modern" science, told the cells "let there be an eye to see all that light that is running around out there." And an eye happened.

Sure there all sorts of steps in eye "evolution" but methinks, the basic nuts and bolts of how an eye works are toooooooo complicated to believe random acts of evolution resulted in a functioning eye.

But, that's just me. Mimsey

[Hatshepsut]

I saw a documentary on Australian desert reptiles recently. They caught a huge snake and showed the camera it's underbelly and dug in under it's scales to show the remnants of the diminished thigh and hip bone. The Proof that the particular species had devolved limbs that were still there was a revelation to me.

[Mark A. Baker]

It's called the multiregional theory and has been aground since the eighties - the rest of the stuff I'm not even going to bother looking up. Read Nat Geo and Discover- pretty basic stuff.

Not exactly as you described it. Per your link the idea centers on a single human species having evolved 2 million years back and subsequently regional differences have occurred as a result of evolutionary pressures in separate sub-groups.

... The hypothesis holds that humans first arose near the beginning of the Pleistocene two million years ago and subsequent human evolution has been within a single, continuous human species. ... The theory contends that humans evolve through a combination of adaptation within various regions of the world and gene flow between those regions. ... (emphasis added in color)

As such it appears to be a one species, many forms approach.


Mark A. Baker

[guanoloco]

Not exactly as you described it. Per your link the idea centers on a single human species having evolved 2 million years back and subsequently regional differences have occurred as a result of evolutionary pressures in separate sub-groups.




As such it appears to be a one species, many forms approach.


Mark A. Baker

You're right and so was Trin. This is different from what I remember.

When I initially was exposed to this theory I explicitly understood it that the human race evolved independently without any exchange of information and that really unsettled me. How could they interbreed?

This was why it really stuck with me and seemed so revelatory.

More than likely I didn't understand something, as much as I'd like to blame the intermediary.

[Dulloldfart]

Anyway, that is my idea - what do you think of it?

Mimsey

Not bad.

Here's a small clip from a longer quote, that is part of my free RAW4* PaulsRobot3 module:

Similar anatomy of structured levels

The structured layers [of the auric field] contain all the forms that the physical body has, including internal organs, blood vessels, etc., and additional forms that the physical body does not contain. There is a vertical flow of energy that pulsates up and down the field in the spinal cord. It extends out beyond the physical body above the head and below the coccyx. I call this the main vertical power current. There are swirling cone-shaped vortexes called chakras in the field. Their tips point into the main vertical power current, and their open ends extend to the edge of each layer of the field they are located in.

There are several more quoted chunks in that module, and 500x that in the original Barbara Brennan book. I haven't quoted enough to make the whole system intelligble, but just a taste in the same vein as your idea.

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*RAW4: RAW4 gives you the chance to run Reach & Withdraw on any or all of the parts that make up the four (supposed) dimensions of human existence:
• Your physical body
• Your aura bodies
• Your hara
• Your core star
Some of these parts will be more familiar to you than others. They are explained thoroughly in the info pages on each of the four levels.

Why Reach & Withdraw?
It is an excellent method of getting incrementally more and more familiar with something, at your own pace.

Paul

[guanoloco]

You know Guanloco, my beef with evolution in this case ( some function magically starts from nothing - I have no beef with evolution as a live for specializes over time to use a portion of the environment better) is this - light falls on an organism - why then does one cell or group of cells decide to react to light and develop a nerve to send it to the brain and the rest don't.

I think the concept, it all evolved from mud is utter bs, but hey! If people want to believe that - go for it. To me, it is obvious some one or some thing decided that an eye was needed and via some process unknown to "modern" science, told the cells "let there be an eye to see all that light that is running around out there." And an eye happened.

Sure there all sorts of steps in eye "evolution" but methinks, the basic nuts and bolts of how an eye works are toooooooo complicated to believe random acts of evolution resulted in a functioning eye.

But, that's just me. Mimsey

I agree, Mims.