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    Default Re: Another Sea Org member denied visits to his dying parent..

    I don't know the exact details here, but if a person is declared the C of S will not allow ANY communcation from the person to any Scientologist in good standing, no matter what the illness or situation may be.

    When my ex-wife was dying of breast cancer, and when I was also declared as an SP, they would NOT let me have ANY communcation with her. Not in writing and not in person. My ONLY comm line was with IJC, and his only communciation to me was "get through A-E" if you want to communciate with ANY Scientologists.

    These people are IDIOTS. They will ALWAYS be idiots as long as they exactly follow exact LRH policies on such matters.
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    "They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.

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    Default Re: Another Sea Org member denied visits to his dying parent..

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadfly View Post
    I don't know the exact details here, but if a person is declared the C of S will not allow ANY communcation from the person to any Scientologist in good standing, no matter what the illness or situation may be.

    When my ex-wife was dying of breast cancer, and when I was also declared as an SP, they would NOT let me have ANY communcation with her. Not in writing and not in person. My ONLY comm line was with IJC, and his only communciation to me was "get through A-E" if you want to communciate with ANY Scientologists.

    These people are IDIOTS. They will ALWAYS be idiots as long as they exactly follow exact LRH policies on such matters.
    Right!

    The problem is that no one is allowed to tell Jeremy about his dad as they are declared but, the dad is not declared and there should be no reason that Jeremy should not be able to go see his dying "undeclared" father (gawd! ) except for the fact that Jeremy's dad is connected to SPs!


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    Default Re: Another Sea Org member denied visits to his dying parent..

    Quote Originally Posted by Sindy View Post
    Right!

    The problem is that no one is allowed to tell Jeremy about his dad as they are declared but, the dad is not declared and there should be no reason that Jeremy should not be able to go see his dying "undeclared" father (gawd! ) except for the fact that Jeremy's dad is connected to SPs!

    Scientology is so much about "controllong the comm line", and "controilling what you read and see". Your "mental diet" is closely monitored and controlled.

    Of ocurse, that is especially ironic when the Hubturd waxes on about communication being the "universal solvent", and where it is considered a valued ability to "be able to communicate with anyone on any subject".

    The TURTH is that Hubbard took THIS statement of his VERY seriously and worked it directly into his ethics & justice "control tech":

    The only crime is being there and communicating.

    That sure is the case for anybody who speaks the truth about Hubbard or Scientology.
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

    "They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagent hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.

    Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".

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    From Meshell:

    NEWS FLASH ----- Per Danny's wife, Gyndee, Jeremy has arrived at the hospital to see his dad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe he was avoiding the calls from the "org" and one particular friend got the message directly to him! Thank you, friend, who will remain anonymous. Or it could be just all the intention, calls and comm that the message finally got to him. I just hope Jeremy spends as much time with Danny over the next bit as possible and doesn't make this the last.

    Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindy View Post
    From Meshell:

    NEWS FLASH ----- Per Danny's wife, Gyndee, Jeremy has arrived at the hospital to see his dad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe he was avoiding the calls from the "org" and one particular friend got the message directly to him! Thank you, friend, who will remain anonymous. Or it could be just all the intention, calls and comm that the message finally got to him. I just hope Jeremy spends as much time with Danny over the next bit as possible and doesn't make this the last.

    Yay!
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