Riverside Mission in the Day; a very spooky story

[pineapple]

Rock climbing's not something I ever did or knew anything about. I am a big city boy. It's not something I ever even heard of until my time in Hawaii and California. After I'd been in Hawaii a while, some guy who'd grown up in California asked me if I wanted to go rock climbing that weekend, and I was like, "What?"

A couple other things that caused jaws to drop when I was in Riverside: I had never eaten Mexican food and could not drive a car. That last one was really considered mind-blowing. I had always lived places where there was lots of public transportation and this wasn't considered too unusual. John Ruane said he was going to have somebody take me out and teach me some weekend, but it never happened.

If you find it hard to imagine Joanie as a C/S, I think I know where you're coming from with that. :-)

After I posted the above remark about Joanie as a C/S, I got to thinking it sounds a little 1.1. (30 years later, scientologese is still handy sometimes.) I don't mean to put Joanie down, who as I said earlier I actually liked, even if she did get on my case a lot. I only meant that she didn't exhibit the personality type of other C/S'es I saw, who seemed more distant, ivory tower types. Joanie seemed a lot more extroverted, is maybe the word for it.

Aloha

[Auditor's Toad]

In regards to CSs, I found them just like the rest of us - as varied as perople are.

The way I read "policy" was as an auditor or a PC I couldn't talk "case" etc with a CS but all "norma"l topics were OK. I found most extremely likeable on a personal level.
One of my very very best friends CS'd hundereds and hundreds of hours of my auditing over the years

As for "spirits" ( like many others ) long before scn I thought there existed spirits without bodies & still do after scn.

My take is this ( ducking ) that people who have passed on from this plane can ( not must .... perhaps ) joined what I call the Universal Consciousness. And that is NOT unreachable by us. Perhaps they continue to exist by us moving forward and therefore they are most eager to help us ( OK, some might call that God or whatever ). Name does not matter.

There is a "vibration" they put out to us & when we manage to get on that particular vibration ( some might call it this or that on the tone scale or whatever )

So, I believe that yes we can hear others... we just need to listen better.

I've talked to many ( very sane ) people over the years who have been spoken to by what we call ( for lack of a better name ) spirits.

Back to listening.

[pineapple]

In regards to CSs, I found them just like the rest of us - as varied as perople are.

The way I read "policy" was as an auditor or a PC I couldn't talk "case" etc with a CS but all "norma"l topics were OK. I found most extremely likeable on a personal level.
One of my very very best friends CS'd hundereds and hundreds of hours of my auditing over the years

As for "spirits" ( like many others ) long before scn I thought there existed spirits without bodies & still do after scn.

I was speaking of the C/S'es I saw while I was in Scn, none of whom I knew personally. I'll mention a few names:

Mary Corydon at Riverside Mission
Pam Moniz at Hawaii Org
Lee Evans at Hawaii Org

They were all way above me on the Grade Chart and more highly trained. In Mary's case, much more -- Cl IX. (I eventually made it to Cl IV.)

In those days I was very intimidated by OT's and had a backoff on communicating with them. That may have contributed to my view of them as distant. I'm sure you're right that C/S'es are just like the rest of us, but in those days I didn't see OT's as being like me. I know different now.

Re spirits, I dunno. In my Scn days of course I believed. I considered it self-evident that we were all spirits, so why shouldn't there be some spirits hanging around that didn't have bodies? Had some experiences that could have been interpreted as evidence of this, though nothing remarkable. Nowadays I dunno, don't think about it a great deal.

The last few days, since I stumbled on this forum, have been the most I've thought about Scn, and "spirits," in 30 years. I got out of Scn in 1981, and there have been long stretches of time since then where I haven't thought about the "spiritual" aspect of things at all, and haven't felt any the worse for it.

Aloha

[SweetnessandLight]

I LOVE this thread!!!

Mackie, you're not the only one who heard, saw and felt strange things going on in that building.

Is amazing to be there when it is almost emptied of humans. The "energy" in some places does still "buzz"!

[phenomanon]

I was speaking of the C/S'es I saw while I was in Scn, none of whom I knew personally. I'll mention a few names:

Mary Corydon at Riverside Mission
Pam Moniz at Hawaii Org
Lee Evans at Hawaii Org

They were all way above me on the Grade Chart and more highly trained. In Mary's case, much more -- Cl IX. (I eventually made it to Cl IV.)

In those days I was very intimidated by OT's and had a backoff on communicating with them. That may have contributed to my view of them as distant. I'm sure you're right that C/S'es are just like the rest of us, but in those days I didn't see OT's as being like me. I know different now.

Re spirits, I dunno. In my Scn days of course I believed. I considered it self-evident that we were all spirits, so why shouldn't there be some spirits hanging around that didn't have bodies? Had some experiences that could have been interpreted as evidence of this, though nothing remarkable. Nowadays I dunno, don't think about it a great deal.

The last few days, since I stumbled on this forum, have been the most I've thought about Scn, and "spirits," in 30 years. I got out of Scn in 1981, and there have been long stretches of time since then where I haven't thought about the "spiritual" aspect of things at all, and haven't felt any the worse for it.

Aloha

I thought Mary Corydon was a great C/S.

She C/s'd me on NOTs and C/s'd for me when I was auditing some PCs on XDN.

I was in Riverside when CO$ was trying to steal Bent's Mission, and trying to run him down with their cars. Their tactics included every dirty trick that you've ever heard of.

phenomanon

[GoNuclear]

I thought Mary Corydon was a great C/S.

She C/s'd me on NOTs and C/s'd for me when I was auditing some PCs on XDN.

I was in Riverside when CO$ was trying to steal Bent's Mission, and trying to run him down with their cars. Their tactics included every dirty trick that you've ever heard of.

phenomanon

Bent wrote up what he went thru in the HubTurd: Messiah or Madman book. At one point his mission was taken away from him, they put him thru the mill, he finally got it back but the Cof$ raided his bank accounts. The last hurrah came after the infamous mission holder meeting in San Fran where there were numerous on the spot declares. Bent wasn't one of them, but, he was paid a visit by the "finance police" that insisted he pay them 15k per day that they were auditing his mission. They wanted to make him sign papers that would have given them license to rip off the building itself, and it was at that point that Bent broke off from the Cof$.

Pete

[phenomanon]

Bent wrote up what he went thru in the HubTurd: Messiah or Madman book. At one point his mission was taken away from him, they put him thru the mill, he finally got it back but the Cof$ raided his bank accounts. The last hurrah came after the infamous mission holder meeting in San Fran where there were numerous on the spot declares. Bent wasn't one of them, but, he was paid a visit by the "finance police" that insisted he pay them 15k per day that they were auditing his mission. They wanted to make him sign papers that would have given them license to rip off the building itself, and it was at that point that Bent broke off from the Cof$.

Pete

Yup. Bent wasn't at that meeting, but Dean Stokes called Bent and told him that COS was going to steal Bent's Mission.

Dean told me .

phenomanon

[Rmack]

I LOVE this thread!!!

Mackie, you're not the only one who heard, saw and felt strange things going on in that building.

Is amazing to be there when it is almost emptied of humans. The "energy" in some places does still "buzz"!

Yeah? Any specific examples?