A cult or not a cult?

[degraded being]

Definitely!!!

We're probably just three like-minded (at least, in some ways) people.

Of course, we could also be a secret Cabal Of Three, sent here by Marcabians with orders to disrupt the usual harmonious nature of a Utopian ESMB.

Mmmmmmmm.................................

[NoName]

The scripture of Scientology is filled with words and ideals of great humanitarian and spiritual value.

The actions of Scientology are unfortunately not.

Scientology gets a star-rated PASS on the theory section, but on the practical session should be FLUNKED and imprisoned, without remorse.

Tony O. Has a video of himself giving an interview to a NY news show on todays blog post. I think he sums it up very well. The beliefs are that the human spirit is eternal and has lived many times. The goal of Scno is to get in touch with this aspect of the human soul and reach our full potential. He didn't get into all the quirky Xenu crap, but I think this is still a good valid summary.

Where he took the Co$ to task is over all the abusive behaviors. He said that it has nothing to do with the beliefs - to the extent that it is based on LRH admin tech, I beg to differ. Of course, I'm willing to grant that the Co$ is reading LRH's writings in an extreme way, as has been known to happen in all groups. For example, I consider myself a Christian and will tell you that those assholes at Westboro Baptist do not represent my beliefs in any way.

[Veda]

Tony O. Has a video of himself giving an interview to a NY news show on todays blog post. I think he sums it up very well. The beliefs are that the human spirit is eternal and has lived many times. The goal of Scno is to get in touch with this aspect of the human soul and reach our full potential. He didn't get into all the quirky Xenu crap, but I think this is still a good valid summary.

Where he took the Co$ to task is over all the abusive behaviors. He said that it has nothing to do with the beliefs - to the extent that it is based on LRH admin tech, I beg to differ. Of course, I'm willing to grant that the Co$ is reading LRH's writings in an extreme way,

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This sounds like Marty Rathbun book-residue.

Firstly, you've already agreed with Hubbard's religion angle and religious cloaking. Game over at that point, Scientology wins.

It's explained in a dozen ways in many places, and I ain't 'spainin' it here, buy Scientology, the doctrine, is abusive, and Scientology is a psychological system, and a political system, not a spiritual system. Even its cosmology is psychological and political. It doesn't require extreme interpretation to be abusive.

That doesn't mean that I want Scientology, with its abusive doctrine, to be illegal. I don't, and I don't, because I'd rather live in relatively free society with abuses, than in a police state with (supposedly) reduced abuses. Nonetheless, it's incorrect to say that its doctrine is not abusive.

You're buying into PR lines, and old dusty PR lines at that, and I hope your depiction of Tony O.'s views is inaccurate, otherwise he's more "handled" than I thought.

How does it feel to be "handled" again by Scientology?

PS. (That last line is only half serious. )