Scientology in the 1950s - the "sane" years?

[Balthasar]

A couple of weeks ago I watches on BBC something interesting. It explained how traumatized soldiers can heal their war trauma by re-living realistic war scenes generated by computer.

Below is the link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19683541

This is newest cutting edge treatment by re-living reality approaching war scenes.
It's like a modern (squirrel) version of Dianetics.

Not even David Miscavige could have better interpreted Hubbard's 1950 Dianetics!

[RogerB]

Thanks, Veda,

This is an important thread; and valuable in that it addresses what to many might seem to be a conundrum.

Your header and opening paragraph do very nicely sum it up:

Scientology in the 1950s - the "sane" years?

This thread is meant to be a kind of repository for items from the 1950s and, perhaps, extending to the early 1960s. This is the period when Scientology was supposed to be at its best.

And I do hope the "intellectualization artists" can refrain from derailing it with nonsense that they "think."

The facts of what are the basics and genesis of Scn and Hubbard's thing are a very different thing to what nearly all the 1950's scientologists did and operated on that made those years "golden" and "sane" and so productive.

The reason for this is that, when one looks at the scenario of those years, the vast bulk of Scn activity was outside of and away from Hubbard's direct reach and control.

The shit you are showing . . . and it is factual stuff, and real bad and ugly shit . . . never got to or contaminated the activities of guys like us in the "rest of the world" . . . . it affected only those in close proximity to or in direct contact with Hubbard.

In the sticks, like Oz, NZ, S. Africa and anywhere else outside of Hubbard's touch, we simply only had and operated with the publicly available materials . . . . you know, the pleasant and good stuff

Scn started going south and negative on a global basis as and when Hubbard's more direct control came into force . . . and this came into being in the mid-1960's and particularly and devastatingly so when SO missions began being "fired" . . . how appropriate an expression for the activity

So, what you are revealing is the truth of the scenario that is the genesis of the whole thing and why it today is the disaster it is . . . but one must also put in context the physical realities of the way in which Scn was available and practiced in those early days.

The fact is, while Hubbard was nuts from the beginning, he did make available some stuff that we were able to use to our benefit . . . but only to the extent that we were physically out of reach of his insanity. And that was the case in the '50's when we had vast physical distance from him and there was no hierarchy of robot-Ronbots to enforce his insanity on us in his stead.

This from one who was there, in it, out in the sticks, in the 1950's.

Rog

[guanoloco]

I remember reading somewhere Hubbard begging for money through a newszine and also offering something like ten grand to anyone who could clear Sara, anybody have links and or docs?

This would be around the Purcell falling out and Sara divorce era.

[onthepes]

Sane years? Not really.

This is a easy read. Dianetics in Limbo stands as evidence that Hubbard's peculiar and destructive patterns were already in motion.

That was wonderful. I read the whole thing. It was a timely reminder. I wrote a post about being potentially destroyed by having communication cut. I had suicidal thoughts. Thank you. It reminded me how not to treat others and therefore how I should treat others.

[guanoloco]

Ron offers a $10,000 reward for clearing his wife, March 1951

[Veda]

No doubt, those Scientologists on the outskirts of Scientology, physically away from Hubbard, would have had an easier time of it.

However, it's likely that virtually all of them ("in good standing") were on Scientology's mailing list.

They would have received copies of 'Ability magazine' and other publications, and would had read the books 'Science of Survival' ("dispose of quietly and without sorrow, no rights of any kind," etc.), and 'What to Audit' ("This is a cold blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillion years").

They would have read 'Professional Auditor Bulletins' or 'PABs' telling them, amongst other things, about psychiatrists and medical doctors injecting people with LSD and sending them into Orgs, etc.

They would have read 'Operational Bulletins', telling them about the mysterious Russian textbook that confirmed the Russian Communist plan to destroy Dianetics and Scientology, and this was also mentioned in at least one of the 'PABs', and in many issues of 'Ability magazine', and also in public lectures, on tape, to which Scientologists attentively listened, whenever they could.

Also, in 'Ability magazine', Scientologists, wherever they were, would have read Hubbard's 'Manual on Dissemination of Material' with its "ruin utterly" and "always attack," etc.

So, while some of the items in this thread would have been unknown to most Scientologists, such as Hubbard's kooky letters to the FBI, the items listed in this post would have been known to them.

And it was mixed with the seemingly benign and common sense parts of Scientology, and slipped - as a package - into the eager minds of Scientologists... even in the 1950s.

[guanoloco]

Here's the link to the ten grand offer.

This is the same wife he never had who was a girl he saved from a Black Magik sex cult who was a housekeeper for rocket scientists who was both a Commie spy and a Nazi spy who was a knocked up streetwalker he took in who was the mother of the child he never had.

I get exhausted just typing this crap!

[RogerB]

Here's the link to the ten grand offer.

This is the same wife he never had who was a girl he saved from a Black Magik sex cult who was a housekeeper for rocket scientists who was both a Commie spy and a Nazi spy who was a knocked up streetwalker he took in who was the mother of the child he never had.

I get exhausted just typing this crap!

Oh, Batshit, that above is FUNNY!

I wet myself reading it . . .

R

[Commander Birdsong]

Sanity is relative.

What is clear is that as a group endeavor the church of scientology became much less sane as time progressed and hubbard extended & expanded his ability to control the actions of others.


Mark A. Baker

you have sane relatives?

what's that like?

[Lermanet_com]

A couple of weeks ago I watches on BBC something interesting. It explained how traumatized soldiers can heal their war trauma by re-living realistic war scenes generated by computer.

Below is the link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19683541

This is newest cutting edge treatment by re-living reality approaching war scenes.
It's like a modern (squirrel) version of Dianetics.

Not even David Miscavige could have better interpreted Hubbard's 1950 Dianetics!

The "source" for this is Dr William Sargant's late 40's manuscript(note) (not published until 55 or so) "Battle for the Mind a physiology of conversion and brainwashing."

Note: After all the newspaper articles surrounding the 1995 raid, RTC vs Lerma, I got a telephone call from an older man, who indicated that he was in a hospital near Norfolk, where Hubbard was for a while, and a visiting "clinician" was passing out copies of his paper to the patients, and Hubbard used that one for Dianetics (after turning the principals it inside out, - example- in Abnormal reaction Therapy, it is ok for the patient to imagine an incident, but you NEVER tell them that stuff is real like Hubbard did to us and we called it 'space opera") And... Dr William Sargant, the head of British Psychiatry happened to be a visiting a nearby College at the time, and was, incidentally, a "clinician"....