Scientology is all bad

[PirateAndBum]

Look just because he was trying to sell you your eternity;

sell you a state called OT which you already are;

sell you a bridge

get you to sell your soul to him.

Is there a problem?

[HelluvaHoax!]

---snipped for brevity---

This whole thing about "home universes" is so STUPID....

And, so so many don't or can't see this - that they have bought into a whole new bundle of exaggerated significances & considerations.

Even after going "home" Dorothy didn't resign at the reg.

She looked at her tech estimate and walked out, after exclaiming:

R6 and Gorilla Implants and Xenu, oh my!

[PirateAndBum]

Yeah, but you are home.

Earth is not a "prison planet". This is where we live.

Oh well, if you are bummed out. . .

1. Fly a Rud.

2. Have a beer.

Thanks, I feel MUCH better now. Had to go earlier similar...

764,856,244 trillion years ago there was this lovely little planet called Home. Then some asshole with a cowboy hat stopped in and the fucked everything up. He claimed he was a professional planet fixer upper. Only too late we realized our planet didn't need any fixer-uppering.

[Mimsey Borogrove]

Even after going "home" Dorothy didn't resign at the reg.

She looked at her tech estimate and walked out, after exclaiming:

R6 and Gorilla Implants and Xenu, oh my!

As a member of PETA I must protest the over use of the Gorilla implants in your humor. There are many other implants that don't involve the use of animals, such as the Hellatrobis or the Heaven implants. Please restrain from further use of Gorillas in your slander of Scientology, or you will have a protest out front of your Hoaxology HQ you won't soon forget!

Mimsey

[NoName]

I am interested in what you think were the logical gaps in my posts to that person.

None of my statements about logical gaps apply to your posts. I can't even find your posts to her right at the moment, Lol. I was talking about the new member thread where there were some unsupported assertions going both ways. For example, Tone Scale works was met with claims there are other things outside the Co$ but no examples. Also a well-meant tongue in cheek statement suggesting LRH is a fraud wasn't supported with so much as a link.

I agree that the tone scale is stupid and LRH is a fraud, but I don't expect anyone to take my word for it. Especially not someone who has just started to figure out they were conned by the Co$

[NoName]

As a member of PETA I must protest the over use of the Gorilla implants in your humor. There are many other implants that don't involve the use of animals, such as the Hellatrobis or the Heaven implants. Please restrain from further use of Gorillas in your slander of Scientology, or you will have a protest out front of your Hoaxology HQ you won't soon forget!

Mimsey

Can I slander thetan-shitting dog statues?

[HelluvaHoax!]

Note: Though, to some degree, many or all "indie Scientologists" also suffer from some similar version of this same sort of redefining of what is Scientology and a Scientologist (in direct contradiction to Hubbard's own overly clear HCOBs, HCOPLs, tapes and books).

There is such profound confusion Scientologists already have about Hubbard's definitions, owing to the Hubbard Law of Commotion, when the cult bifurcates into new denominations (Indie, FZ, Ron's Org, Mark's Org, et al) the cult members' exponential disorientation can be expressed mathematically as:

C³

It defines the product of the equation: (C) x (C) x (C); where:

C = Cult Member's naive Conclusions & Confidence.

C = Confused Concepts that cannot be Cleared.

C = Contradictory Cult Concoctions, Contrivances & Concealments.

Every Hubbard cult faction has their own peculiar definitions for the same terms.

Scientologists cannot even agree on a simple term like "SP".

Hubbard defines SP and lists the crimes and high crimes like squirreling, breaking away from the COS, not Keeping Scientology Working by altering even a word of his scripture, et al.

Then Indies commit an incalculable number of those high crimes, teach that OT III is an allegory and never really happened, squirrel the Bridge and other sacred abominations. But the Indies constantly talk about KSW and keeping the tech pure. And they declare the leaders of COS to be SPs.

The COS declares Indies SPs, just as Ron would have. And they Fair Game Indies just as Ron dictated in policies.

But, then the Indies (knowing that Ron would destroy them if he had the chance) say that Ron is their "greatest friend" and they dedicate their lives to "flowing power" to the Commodore.

So, Indies declares COS Scientologists and COB an SP. COS declares Indies are SP. Both Indies and COS thinks the FZ and Ron's Org and Bakerologists and ESMBers are SPs. The real SPs (Scientologists applying the SP tech) say that SPs don't apply the SP tech because they are SPs. But they don't apply the SP tech, which is okay because they are KSW.

It doesn't have to make sense; it's Scientology.

[Ogsonofgroo]

Thanks Hoaxy, unfortunately your post bespeaks the confused 'truth' of the delema faced by those willing (or not so) to give up what they cannot lose, to gain something they cannot hold.
Sad it is :(

[HelluvaHoax!]

Look just because he was trying to sell you your eternity;

sell you a state called OT which you already are;

sell you a bridge

get you to sell your soul to him.

Is there a problem?

Ummmm....

Well, let's see. All my time. All my money. All my freedom. What do I get in return? Hmmmm. Oh, a certificate in a frame that I am allowed to hold overhead for promo.

That sounds like a good deal to me.

Sure, I'll do it!

[HelluvaHoax!]

Thanks Hoaxy, unfortunately your post bespeaks the confused 'truth' of the delema faced by those willing (or not so) to give up what they cannot lose, to gain something they cannot hold.
Sad it is :(

HellYeah!

Here is the real killah in Scientology.

Even if you study EXACTLY what Hubbard says and clear every definition and clay demo everything--there is still no hope to understand it. Because....

1) There is a contradictory part for everything in Scientology. If you understand that Ron says something is good, it will later be proven that it is bad. If you agree that fire engines are red, you will flunk on the HCOPL that says that they are green.
There is no way to understand it because there is no "it". There are just oceans of assertions that are filled with contradictions.

2) Even if you happen to understand one part of Scientology TEMPORARILY and apply it, it will NEVER do what it says it is supposed to do. Unless you broadly define Clear, OT and Total Freedom as a "win" and then every time you have a "win" you think you are achieving Clear, OT and Total Freedom.

It's a freaking mess, Scientology is.

That is the reason that Scientologists do moronic things like go bankrupt and allow themselves to be imprisoned, beaten and terrorized.

Scientology actually makes people compliant, stupid slaves.

Natter?

That itself (the concept of "natter") is a good way to get slaves to re-attach their shackles if they inadvertently slip off.