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    I thought they did already and that she and her attorneys are reviewing them. did i miss something?
    Perhaps the high probability that the scientology culling hands and eyes and shredding machines work quite well and that they always have a wall of fire available for destruction of some of the unimportant session pages.

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    Thanks Mary but doesn't this also mean they have shot down the motion that she filed too late or is that still pending?
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    For the record here, the US Supreme Court denied the cult's petition:


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    Tony O posted today that COS is asking for psychiatric examination of Laura DeCrescenzo in her forced abortion lawsuit.

    http://tonyortega.org/2013/12/09/sci...it/#more-12028

    Thanks to Smurf who posted this link on another tread which I happened to read today:

    http://www.factnet.org/satanic-elements-scientology

    The folks over at Tony O's blog are questioning and making fun of this motion of the COS,

    what they don't realize is, it's straight out of the Brainwashing Manual, about half way down in the link.

    "Entirely by bringing about public conviction that the sanity of a person is in question it is possible to discount and eradicate all the goals and activities of that person." From the "Brainwashing Manual" ascribed to L Ron Hubbard.
    Hubbard's views on how to use the legal system for handling critics"The purpose of a lawsuit is to harass and discourage rather than to win....Don't ever defend. Always attack. Find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person's repute and to discredit them so thoroughly they will be ostracized. Be alert to sue for slander at the slightest chance so as to discourage the public presses from mentioning Scientology."

    "The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, will knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly." From "A Manual on the Dissemination of Material" (1955) by L. Ron Hubbard.

    "NEVER agree to an investigation of Scientology. ONLY agree to investigate the attackers....This is the correct procedure: (1) Spot who is attacking us. (2) Start investigating them for FELONIES or worse, using our own professionals, not outside agencies. (3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. (4) Start feeding lurid, blood, sex, crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press....Don't ever submit tamely to an investigation of us. Make it rough on the attackers all the way....You can get "reasonable about it" and lose .... so BANISH all ideas that any fair hearing is intended and start our attack with their first breath. Never wait. Never talk about us -- only them. Use their blood, sex, crime to get headlines. Don't use us." From HCO policy letter of 25 Feb. 1966, "Attacks on Scientology."

    "The defense of anything is untenable. The only way to defend anything is to attack, and if you ever forget that, you will lose every battle you are engaged in, whether it is in terms of personal conversation, public debate, or a court of law. NEVER BE INTERESTED IN CHARGES. Do yourself, much MORE CHARGING, and you will win."

    "Entirely by bringing about public conviction that the sanity of a person is in question it is possible to discount and eradicate all the goals and activities of that person." From the "Brainwashing Manual" ascribed to L Ron Hubbard.
    Where's Veda to comment on this since he knows it so well.

    The COS is trying to establish Laura is nuts for public opinion to be swayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    Tony O posted today that COS is asking for psychiatric examination of Laura DeCrescenzo in her forced abortion lawsuit.

    http://tonyortega.org/2013/12/09/sci...it/#more-12028

    Thanks to Smurf who posted this link on another tread which I happened to read today:

    http://www.factnet.org/satanic-elements-scientology

    The folks over at Tony O's blog are questioning and making fun of this motion of the COS,

    what they don't realize is, it's straight out of the Brainwashing Manual, about half way down in the link.





    Where's Veda to comment on this since he knows it so well.

    The COS is trying to establish Laura is nuts for public opinion to be swayed.
    It doesn't matter what the public thinks - just the judge.

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    This kind of tactic worked back in the McCarthy era when mental illness was something to be ashamed of and hidden.

    That's not the case today, and a smear such as this is more likely to backfire as bigotry than convince anyone that the charges are baseless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    Tony O posted today that COS is asking for psychiatric examination of Laura DeCrescenzo in her forced abortion lawsuit.

    http://tonyortega.org/2013/12/09/sci...it/#more-12028

    Thanks to Smurf who posted this link on another tread which I happened to read today:

    http://www.factnet.org/satanic-elements-scientology

    The folks over at Tony O's blog are questioning and making fun of this motion of the COS,

    what they don't realize is, it's straight out of the Brainwashing Manual, about half way down in the link.





    Where's Veda to comment on this since he knows it so well.

    The COS is trying to establish Laura is nuts for public opinion to be swayed.
    Its just another big footbullet.

    Donning Hoaxies valence:-

    Laura's Lawyer:- Havn't you declared psychaitry was to be eradicated in 2000?

    COB's Lawyer:- Erhhhh...Yes.

    Laura's lawyer :- Thus a psyche evaluation is not possible is it?

    COB's Lawyer :- Er...... We failed.

    Judge:- And you've failed here. There will be no psyche evaluation from a profession
    whose judgments you dismiss. We shall instead examine your own counseling records of Laura.
    You clearly stand by them and there will no grounds upon which you can appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udarnik View Post
    This kind of tactic worked back in the McCarthy era when mental illness was something to be ashamed of and hidden.

    That's not the case today, and a smear such as this is more likely to backfire as bigotry than convince anyone that the charges are baseless.
    In reading the document provided by Tony O

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/190365162/...tus-Conference

    The COS is claiming that since Laura is claiming psychiatric harm, then per Civil Code 2032.320, an examination should be done.

    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...2.310-2032.320

    The Judge has to follow the rules not what we think or even if COS hates the psych's.

    What this does is a couple of things. A bunch of what if's.

    What if the COS offers the psych examiner a cool 10 million under the table for saying the right words. You know how these guys twist words around.

    What if the psych examiner says the right words, but nothing happens because of it, well the COS now has a DA pack that they can put together for members who question the lawsuit.

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    I think they are filing every hail Mary pass they have and hope something sticks. They want to wear her down financially, mentally or anyway possible. We can only hope the judge sees through this BS for what it is, and will deny their motions.

    Mimsey

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    From WWP: https://whyweprotest.net/community/t...4#post-2395742

    Other NEW DOX, from past docket actions, that we haven't seen before...
    Cult's objections to the Levine declaration: http://www.scribd.com/doc/190512709/...tion-18Oct2013

    November 27th Notice of hearing for media request to see Exhibit GG from Laura's October 2013 declaration, which was the VIDEO evidence the cult recorded of her signing Sea Org exit agreement: http://www.scribd.com/doc/190512708/...aring-5Dec2013

    December 5th Hearing Ruling - the media request will be satisfied by TeamLaura who will provide an additional copy of the video in response to letter from Lisa Bartley of ABC News in LA, rather than making the court provided a copy of the one previously submitted to the docket: http://www.scribd.com/doc/190512711/...Request-Ruling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    Its just another big footbullet.

    Donning Hoaxies valence:-

    Laura's Lawyer:- Havn't you declared psychaitry was to be eradicated in 2000?

    COB's Lawyer:- Erhhhh...Yes.

    Laura's lawyer :- Thus a psyche evaluation is not possible is it?

    COB's Lawyer :- Er...... We failed.

    Judge:- And you've failed here. There will be no psyche evaluation from a profession
    whose judgments you dismiss. We shall instead examine your own counseling records of Laura.
    You clearly stand by them and there will no grounds upon which you can appeal.
    Good point! It is amazing the balls Scientology has to ask for one of mankind's most dreaded SP to "evaluate" Laura...when actually, now that I have been out for a while...the Psychs are not as bad as Scientology lead me to believe. Laura's attorney's should have a fricken field day with this request!! I can't wait...

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