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    Default Rosanne Barr: MK ULtra Rules in Hollywood

    "Hollywood is the one that keeps all of this power structure. They perpetuate the culture of racism, sexism, classism, genderism and keep it all in place. They continue to feed it, and they make a lot of money doing it. They do it at the behest of their masters, who run everything.

    I speak on behalf of Hollywood. I go to parties, Oscar parties and things like that and big stars pull me aside, take my arm and whisper: “I just want to thank you for the things you say.” And it blows my mind, but that’s the culture, it’s a culture of fear.

    It’s a big culture of mind control, MK Ultra rules in Hollywood"

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    The possible Hubbard, direct connection, to MK-Ultra LINK

    Repost from ESMB link above due to relevance to this thread:

    I dont know that I've got it right, but it fits, and it would make sense if my hunch that $cientology was created by a roomful of very smart guys in the black budget government who likewise used Hubbard - Seeing an opportunity, a nut ball sci-fi writer wannabe with delusions of grandeur at George Washington University, When I look at his grades, I conclude the only way to get grades that bad is to NOT BE IN CLASS, which begs the question, then where was he? - I have a report that Hubbard was seen at a notorious mental hospital called St Elizabeth's in DC that was documented as being involved in Mk-Ultra. One of his professors went looking for a missing student, and found Lafeyette Hubbard in a straight jacket, in a padded cell at St. Elizabeth's, screaming that he was Jesus Christ. - This is from an interview I did with the son of the President of George Washington University, who would bring professors home for dinner parties, and one of them, named (phonetic spelling) Dr Mossell, told the story of a missing student...who he went looking for. My friend recalls hearing this story vividly (as child).(note)

    There is also a possibility that some truths from the alien contacts of our government might have been fed to Hubbard, incorporated into the belief system. I still wonder what they were referring to when in RTC vs Lerma , when under oath, Cooley called the OT Levels "ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY" perhaps the technology was the advanced technology of deception used to create $cientology?

    The best lies are those that resemble the truth.

    Arnie Lerma

    Note: This fellow was one of my sound clients, and ten years after doing an upscale system for him, he called me on the phone, and said he wanted to meet, I asked why and he said because he had been reading about me on the net, and he felt I was one of the few who might believe him. I asked what it was about and he said, he had opened his father's locked desk and started reading his papers...what he found blew his mind, he hoped I could help him deal with that after all I'd been through. Of course, after I sat down and turned on the tape, What I learned from him, blew mine...

    Here is a picture of his dad, Dr Thomas H Carroll,(note) center facing Dullus, with Pres Eisenhower and John Foster Dullus CIA,




    The bottom is image of top of a letter he got from Ex Defense Secretary Robert McNamara encouraging him to pursue this story..I took this picture of the photos and letters on a desk, not having permission to post the entire photos..

    More here

    and if you are intrigued you MUST read this one on OCMB which was buried in an archive there because.. heh, I suppose it was too weird for ocmb.LINK (scroll down)



    Note: Note the Wiki entry, Note that he, like Hubbard, was in the US Navy Reserves till 1945.Then there is no entry between 1945 and 1950, because he was the head of Top Secret Operation Paperclip, he was the one who gave tens of thousands (Not 860 or so, like it says on Wiki) of the smartest Nazi's new names and jobs in American industry and intelligence. Oh and his son told me that his dad's nickname while a director at The Ford Foundation (ESMB LINK by Lerma) was "The Fifth Rider of the Apocalypse"
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    How to become an Expert Operator(c) 1931 30 Mb pdf
    "Contrary to general belief, it has been my experience that the more intelligent the subject, the easier it is to induce hypnosis" Ralph Slater - "Hypnotism" May 1950 Large PDF of entire book
    The secret of Dianetics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post
    "Hollywood is the one that keeps all of this power structure. They perpetuate the culture of racism, sexism, classism, genderism and keep it all in place. They continue to feed it, and they make a lot of money doing it. They do it at the behest of their masters, who run everything.

    I speak on behalf of Hollywood. I go to parties, Oscar parties and things like that and big stars pull me aside, take my arm and whisper: “I just want to thank you for the things you say.” And it blows my mind, but that’s the culture, it’s a culture of fear.

    It’s a big culture of mind control, MK Ultra rules in Hollywood"

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    Yes I'm sure that there's CIA involvement in the entertainment industry, but there's others too. There is a propaganda war going on. People only see the world through the media, and only the image they want us to see.

    They financed tours of Jackson Pollock and the other modernist artists who produced 'cutting edge' art with nothing to say and paraded them in front of Russians and Eastern Europeans to show how free the west was. Free to not make any political statements. Free to splash paint, just not free to question the starched white plastic American consumer dream.
    Everywhere in the modern world there is neglect, the need to be recognized, which is not satisfied. Art is a way of recognizing oneself, which is why it will always be modern. (Louise Bourgeois)

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    Quote Originally Posted by La La Lou Lou View Post
    Yes I'm sure that there's CIA involvement in the entertainment industry, but there's others too. There is a propaganda war going on. People only see the world through the media, and only the image they want us to see.

    They financed tours of Jackson Pollock and the other modernist artists who produced 'cutting edge' art with nothing to say and paraded them in front of Russians and Eastern Europeans to show how free the west was. Free to not make any political statements. Free to splash paint, just not free to question the starched white plastic American consumer dream.
    ahhh, you actually read that book I recommended! Good Job! Thank you!

    Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters



    That book really opened my eyes to the subject.

    Anyone recall "How to live though an executive?" by Richard DeMille? he was a cousin or nephew of Cecil B. DeMille, the book was sold by Scientology when I was involved in the 70's. Richard was a young man with Hubbard in early days.. Richard DeMille's name showed up 20 years later, on the CIA's own FOIA pages as a CIA contract worker in the 60's.

    Richard DeMille also published not one but TWO books demonizing Carlos Castenada. More on him this evening I need to review and edit some research notes.
    READ ME: Lerma's Hypnosis in $cientology thread... over on Xenu.net forum HERE
    Journal of Hypnotism 1952 re Dianetics and Hypnosis: "The same old sofa but with new upholstery" ESMB LINK
    How to become an Expert Operator(c) 1931 30 Mb pdf
    "Contrary to general belief, it has been my experience that the more intelligent the subject, the easier it is to induce hypnosis" Ralph Slater - "Hypnotism" May 1950 Large PDF of entire book
    The secret of Dianetics

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    ahhh, you actually read that book I recommended! Good Job! Thank you!

    Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters



    This really opened my eyes to the entire subject
    I have to admit that I didn't, but Ive read similar books and articles on my fine art degree, the CIA involvement in the arts is well known in British academia.
    Everywhere in the modern world there is neglect, the need to be recognized, which is not satisfied. Art is a way of recognizing oneself, which is why it will always be modern. (Louise Bourgeois)

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    Then there is the more fringe stuff.



    One has to wonder WHY the movie was never released or the rights sold. From Amazon about The CIA's Control of Candy Jones:

    "In the 26 years since The Control of Candy Jones was first published, the controversy surrounding this wrenching tale of how one of America's most famous models was used by the CIA as a human guinea pig in its infamous mind control experiments, has never completely vanished. It has remained a "cult book," fueling the cause of critics of the CIA, and further defining the now proven (and accepted) thesis that the minds of certain people can be manipulated and controlled, in this instance, for evil purposes.

    20th Century Fox paid significant money for it as a film vehicle for Jane Fonda, yet never produced the movie despite attempts at screenplays by three of Hollywood's best, and has refused to sell the rights to the many producers who've expressed interest in making the film. Why? The CIA attempted to suppress the book, as did one of the doctors, a physician to the stars, who spearheaded the intelligence agency's mind control experimentation. This edition, with a new foreword by the author, presents another opportunity for every concerned citizen to share the compelling tragedy suffered by Candy Jones during that dark, tumultuous period in our history known as the "Cold War."


    And, if you really want to venture out there read:



    A reviewer had this to say:

    "A century ago a book such as this would have been a call to the barricades. Today with the state as powerful as it is, this book simply makes you want to leave the United States and let it rot.

    For those who haven't read the book, O'Brien's story is one of a survivor of a CIA-sponsored program called MK Ultra, which aimed to explore the limits of human "suggestibility." The program began following World War II, when numerous top Nazi scientists resettled in the United States, at the invitation of the CIA, to continue their research into mind control. The project was based upon the research finding that if a person is severely traumatized, he or she will "split" off a "multiple personality" as a defense mechanism. It was those "multiples" that CIA scientists sought (successfully) to "program." Today thousand of people exist as mind-controlled slaves whose "programs" for various activities, such as performance in pornography films, prostitution, message carrying, and drug "muling," can be "accessed" by their "controllers" by cryptic keywords.

    A reader curious about O'Brien's book should be forewarned of the exceptionally bizarre nature of its revelations. In fact, at least in my view, the revelations are so bizarre, it would probably be a bad move to read this book without first reading something that "builds" up to it. A good primer on the subject would be John Decamp's, The Franklin Cover-Up.

    Those who do read the book and are of sufficient independent thought to see through the haze of disinformation put forward every day by the state-influenced newspapers and magazines and see the truth in O'Brien's book are placed in a difficult position. They're in possession of extremely rare knowledge, and, furthermore, extremely bleak knowledge. For the picture painted by O'Brien, unfortunately, is nearly without hope."


    Note: I had to finally stop reading and thinking about this sort of this stuff, because sadly, while probably largely true, there is NOTHING anyone can do about it. Hubbard was right when he said that a person is less suppressed to the degree he or she can do something about it. What can anyone really do about the direction of this world?

    If you want to see a really interesting movie, see Five Fingers with Laurence Fishburne and Ryan Phillippe. I can understand why some folks end up as anarchists and terrorists who have the view that the ONLY solution is to bring worldwide capitalism to its knees . . . . and then rebuild something different and better from the ashes. I am too old for that, but I understand.

    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

    "They must know how to kindle and fan an extravagant hope". - Eric Hoffer about the "true believer". "Total Freedom", "your eternity", and "OT" involve a few of the extravagant hopes in Scientology.

    Go HERE to view and/or download the essay, "The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs".

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    I am amused by people who are all up in arms because "the world is going to the dogs" or "powerful forces have destroyed our way of life" or "the gubmint is really controlled by people who control our elected officials."

    To all those outraged souls, I say: You just discovered this now?!

    Tremendous power in human society has always been consolidated in the hands of a few. If you're just now realizing this, you are a n00b and should be highly embarrassed.

    Power always has been and will be controlled by a few people and their organizations: the viziers of Ancient Egypt; the Medicis; investment banks and hedge funds, etc.

    Throughout the ages, this basic fact of life has not stopped most people from enjoying their lives. What does stop people from enjoying their lives is their inability to create their lives despite the immutable fact that our species spawns alpha types who will do anything to preserve their power.

    You might as well rail against the moon. This is the species you were born into.

    tl;dr growup

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG1 View Post
    I am amused by people who are all up in arms because "the world is going to the dogs" or "powerful forces have destroyed our way of life" or "the gubmint is really controlled by people who control our elected officials."

    To all those outraged souls, I say: You just discovered this now?!

    Tremendous power in human society has always been consolidated in the hands of a few. If you're just now realizing this, you are a n00b and should be highly embarrassed.

    Power always has been and will be controlled by a few people and their organizations: the viziers of Ancient Egypt; the Medicis; investment banks and hedge funds, etc.

    Throughout the ages, this basic fact of life has not stopped most people from enjoying their lives. What does stop people from enjoying their lives is their inability to create their lives despite the immutable fact that our species spawns alpha types who will do anything to preserve their power.

    You might as well rail against the moon. This is the species you were born into.

    tl;dr growup

    TG1
    That's a very good point and largely true. The problem though at this point in time is that the stakes have never been higher. Today's elites have the technology to really put the hurt on us. They can track us and control us in ways that the elites of old would've loved. To them we are the herd and they now have the tools to corral us like never before.

    I am not motivated any longer to "wake people up" though. I used to "do my part". Lol....what a joke. The simple fact of the matter is that human beings don't change or wake up until there is horrendous pain and/or suffering. It's the best motivator. That's just how we're wired. But as I said the stakes have never been higher. By the time the masses start experiencing the pain of the loss of their freedom it will probably be too late. Then this will indeed become a "Prison Planet". Not the Hubbardian fantasy kind either. There might be a few places to escape the worst of it, but not many. First up on the calendar of events is another even worse economic collapse, and then a World War brought to you mostly by the idiot American politicians, and the Middle Eastern whackos.....which our Intelligence services have been creating for decades btw, starting with that Sir Lawrence of Arabia asswipe.

    In short, I don't have much, if any, hope for humanity's future. Plus when you add in the severe degradation of the ecosystems to the mix, well, I personally wouldn't be surprised if mankind's population is less than ten percent of what it is now in a hundred years. I won't be around then to be surprised or not though.

    Yep....I'm a confirmed Pessimist.

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    Roseanne has been talking about this for years... she's nutty. but not afraid to speak her mind..





    Here she talks about her study of Kaballah & the meaning of JILFS..


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    Randy Quaid being targeted...

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