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    Quote Originally Posted by mudada View Post
    Well, if you have any other way of taking them down, then we won't stop you.
    You guys are scarier than the church. You haven't a clue about Scientology or Scientologists. You might as well also go attack the Mormons, Moslems, Catholics, Christians and Jews. MLK! Yeah, he's a man you should study a bit more. I'm having a hard time recalling all the revenge seeking missions MLK carried out in his lifetime.

    The Church of Scientology is doing just fine taking itself down. Spread the word.

    Scientologists are not a pack of murders. Hate isn't the answer, unless you are looking to eat yourself up from the inside out.

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    @ Mudada and Yid

    Moral support as long as you don't do anything illegal.. Sure! - You have it! - Support by exposing the truth to the public.. You have it! - I'll post a slew of links later. Lots of exposure! - Enough to keep you guys reading for the next three months!

    DDOS attacks.. I think those are illegal, even if they really just are visiting a website a helluva lot of times, like 10.000 times a second. - The viral ping-bots and backdoors that are downloaded to peoples computers without their knowledge or consent IS illegal! - And I fuckin' hate that activity.. Is that how you do it?

    Also, remember that Scn's websites are just promotional stuff. I doubt that anything of value is there in their HTML. It's not worth hacking into... Although I suspect that you guys get great lols from doing so? - Am I right?

    The haxored data that you already took off from there.. All that stuff about the Gorilla Goals and Helatrobus.. Well, someone would have given you a link to that stuff if you'd asked for it here!

    And.. As for disabling Scientologys website. The strategic value of that is debatable. Fact is that their own arrogant drivel on their website works against them! - That it does that is the result of critics and ex'es hard work for years... And Scientologys own deranged activities.

    Which is also why they now has the hackers as enemies.. I'm not wholly unsatisfied with that. It's great.. And it was also intirely predictable. Those jerks alienate everybody.

    As for 'taking them down'... Have no doubt that we want to take 'em down! - But the reality is that your proposed method will not 'take 'em down'.

    Exposing the scam will! - But Scientology is a very complex scam. Those in it don't think it's a scam! - They mean to save humanity from entrapment on this prison planet.. It's nuts, but the problem is that they are sincere!

    Ok, where to find all the information:

    No need to link this Message Board!

    http://www.xenu.net and the MB there: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/
    http://www.wwwaif.net/scn.php
    http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
    http://www.carolineletkeman.org
    http://www.lermanet.com
    http://www.scientology-lies.com
    http://www.whyaretheydead.net
    http://www.taxexemptchildabuse.net

    And there's the usenet A.R.S Alt.Religion.Scientology group.

    This is only sites off the top of my head. There's a lot more than this.

    Ask not what Scientology can do for you, ask what the F#*¤CK is going on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwimmelPuckel View Post
    @ Mudada and Yid

    Moral support as long as you don't do anything illegal.. Sure! - You have it! - Support by exposing the truth to the public.. You have it! - I'll post a slew of links later. Lots of exposure! - Enough to keep you guys reading for the next three months!

    DDOS attacks.. I think those are illegal, even if they really just are visiting a website a helluva lot of times, like 10.000 times a second. - The viral ping-bots and backdoors that are downloaded to peoples computers without their knowledge or consent IS illegal! - And I fuckin' hate that activity.. Is that how you do it?

    Also, remember that Scn's websites are just promotional stuff. I doubt that anything of value is there in their HTML. It's not worth hacking into... Although I suspect that you guys get great lols from doing so? - Am I right?

    The haxored data that you already took off from there.. All that stuff about the Gorilla Goals and Helatrobus.. Well, someone would have given you a link to that stuff if you'd asked for it here!

    And.. As for disabling Scientologys website. The strategic value of that is debatable. Fact is that their own arrogant drivel on their website works against them! - That it does that is the result of critics and ex'es hard work for years... And Scientologys own deranged activities.

    Which is also why they now has the hackers as enemies.. I'm not wholly unsatisfied with that. It's great.. And it was also intirely predictable. Those jerks alienate everybody.

    As for 'taking them down'... Have no doubt that we want to take 'em down! - But the reality is that your proposed method will not 'take 'em down'.

    Exposing the scam will! - But Scientology is a very complex scam. Those in it don't think it's a scam! - They mean to save humanity from entrapment on this prison planet.. It's nuts, but the problem is that they are sincere!

    Ok, where to find all the information:

    No need to link this Message Board!

    http://www.xenu.net and the MB there: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/
    http://www.wwwaif.net/scn.php
    http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
    http://www.carolineletkeman.org
    http://www.lermanet.com
    http://www.scientology-lies.com
    http://www.whyaretheydead.net
    http://www.taxexemptchildabuse.net

    And there's the usenet A.R.S Alt.Religion.Scientology group.

    This is only sites off the top of my head. There's a lot more than this.

    What he said.

    Good post Schwimmel.

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    For those totally perplexed, 'yid' is posting from an anarchist internet community described here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan
    you have to read the whole article for things to make sense.
    They also operate from here:
    http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Main_Page
    where there is a humorous article on Scientology:
    http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Scientology
    It is perhaps typical of ED, an apparently wildly over the top piece that actually contains a lot of truth. The 'how to troll Operation Clambake' advice may amuse some of you :D

    WARNING: lots of rudeness and obscenity, not work or school safe!

    These people normally operate under screens of disinformation, so don't believe anything they say or claim They do seem to have taken down scientology.org for a few hours yesterday.
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    http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/stolgy_28.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by yid View Post
    you are ex scientologists, look at all they have done to you, people have died at the hands of Scientologists, countless lives ruined, countless families broken up, im sure you can relate to at least two of those things, yet you dont want a hand in their downfall. i dont understand

    also breaking news: ddosing is not illegal. it is simply revisiting a website a lot of times

    anonymous' slogan is "we do not forgive and we do not forget" i think you two could use some of that
    You are engaging in what scientology called "fair game".

    You are doing something to hurt them because you have decided they do not deserve the protection or freedom you would insist on for yourself.

    Is that the moral high ground?

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    Thank you for the links SP, but there are several people working on spreading anti-Scientology propaganda, that's to be more concise and less boring, for those with shorter attention spans. The ddos is just to get the medias' attention. If they realize that all the anti-Scientology material, soon to be online, is connected to the ddos, they may make a note of it, if they report on the ddos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudada View Post
    Thank you for the links SP, but there are several people working on spreading anti-Scientology propaganda, that's to be more concise and less boring, for those with shorter attention spans. The ddos is just to get the medias' attention. If they realize that all the anti-Scientology material, soon to be online, is connected to the ddos, they may make a note of it, if they report on the ddos.
    If this does get media attention it will make the CofS look like victims, in the media. This is not a good idea... to say the least.

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    They aren't doing anything illegal. Also, at this point in time, I note that the raid has gone on since the 15th, and the main sites are still down.

    The level of harassment they are putting the CoS through is no different than leafleting and picketing, it's just a different medium. The plus side also is that unlike picketing, CoS will actually have to use extra resources to stop this.

    Anonymous tends to latch on to any of its targets like a dog (See: Hal Turner), and this very well may be a fight to the end. They are smart and resourceful enough not to reveal themselves, so I for one will be bringing the popcorn out on who comes out on top of this.
    That's what you get for bringing Postulation to a MEST fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudada View Post
    Thank you for the links SP, but there are several people working on spreading anti-Scientology propaganda, that's to be more concise and less boring, for those with shorter attention spans. The ddos is just to get the medias' attention. If they realize that all the anti-Scientology material, soon to be online, is connected to the ddos, they may make a note of it, if they report on the ddos.
    Interesting tactic, but you put Scientology in role of "victim" by it.

    All the anti scientology material has been available for years, and the great unappreciated mass of populance that rely on the mainstream media will only see a ddos as criminal activity.

    You may actually set back the cause of the longstanding critics of scientology by your actions.

    I say go for it, shut down the churchs web sites. The media will report it as religious bigotry on your part.

    alex (oh yea, ps, I'm a scientologist)
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    Quote Originally Posted by programmer_guy View Post
    If this does get media attention it will make the CofS look like victims, in the media. This is not a good idea... to say the least.
    Oh, the media won't. After all, isn't it up to the actual critics to ring up any media that portrays Scientology as a victim, and explain why it is a deadly cult?

    Or will the "real critics" be arrogant enough to say "this is below our level" and do nothing?

    It will be the first time when the media will actually be interested to hear any new angles on the story. It's one thing to call up random places and insist upon them feigning interest on a cult they've never heard of, but it's quite another to give some good info for the press to rely on.
    That's what you get for bringing Postulation to a MEST fight.

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