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    Marty: The Scientology ‘Why’ Trap
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    “We’re in a society that is so psychology-ridden that it’s almost hobbled with ‘why did I do that and this and that?’ Although psychology has a powerful cleansing function, like any method it can become a trap, and it’s trapped many of us in the West. But the more we act from the heart, from that deep intuitional space, the less the spinning of the mind will interfere. The more awareness with which we do something, the more heart we act on, the more that self-acceptance will allow us to trust those acts.”

    - from A Gradual Awakening by Stephen Levine

    That is a very apt and insightful statement that, while not attempting to, precisely describes what might most be wrong with Scientology. I have in the past noted the ingrained proclivity in Scientologists to practice excessive judgmentalism on others. For example, see Sitting In Judgment. .

    Perhaps the ‘why’ trap of the Scientology pop psychology scheme will be more apparent by viewing it on flow 0 – that is, what one does to oneself. Please take a moment to review this. Have you been saddled with the habit of asking yourself, or possibly seeking the answer from your auditor or the organization or even Ron, ‘why did I do that and this and that?’ A valid target of psychology or psychotherapy, but as noted by Levine, up to a point.

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    If so, I believe it would behoove you to learn a bit about the crippling nature of aristotelian two-valued logic thought. A great place to start is the first several chapters of a book called The End of Suffering by Russell Targ and J.J. Hurtak. You will learn the uncredited provenance of Scientology’s purported ‘infinity logic’; which has been with us for millennia prior to Scientology. For a deeper appreciation of, and thus potentially greater freedom from, the two-valued logic trap, the first few chapters of The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra will give you the history of how we in the West came to take two-valued logic for granted as a way of life. A review of both books just might help you break that vicious cycle, should you find it present.

    Recently, I summed up in one sentence what I have evolved toward doing with former Scientologists, ‘connecting some dots so that they can see that the only thing that is wrong with them is the ingrained belief that there always has to be something wrong with them.’
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    I do like this passage:
    Recently, I summed up in one sentence what I have evolved toward doing with former Scientologists, ‘connecting some dots so that they can see that the only thing that is wrong with them is the ingrained belief that there always has to be something wrong with them.’

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    I do like this passage:

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    Recently, I summed up in one sentence what I have evolved toward doing with former Scientologists, ‘connecting some dots so that they can see that the only thing that is wrong with them is the ingrained belief that there always has to be something wrong with them.’
    Notice Marty describes them as "former Scientologists," and not as Independent Scientlogists, non-COS Scientologists, Freezoners, etc.

    It appears Marty may now be practicing a form of exit counseling and/or post-traumatic, post-taucultic counseling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommunicatorIC View Post
    Notice Marty describes them as "former Scientologists," and not as Independent Scientlogists, non-COS Scientologists, Freezoners, etc.

    It appears Marty may now be practicing a form of exit counseling and/or post-traumatic, post-taucultic counseling.
    aw comon, say the WORD, go ahead, - Marty is an apprentice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post
    aw comon, say the WORD, go ahead, - Marty is an apprentice

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    and this is a very good thing...
    Soon we will have "the precious" back in the US , Good old Gerry Armstrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lermanet_com View Post
    aw comon, say the WORD, go ahead, - Marty is an apprentice

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    and this is a very good thing...

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    Please note: The word "why" does not occur in ANY Scientology process at any level. It is an ADMIN concept - hunting for "The Why" - and is a fruitless exercise because there is never a single big WHY, always multiple smaller ones.

    In processing, the question "why" introverts the preclear without directing his attention anywhere, and so it is a totally invalid question.

    Anybody trying to get another to figure out Why this or that is seeking to introvert him/her and is SUPRESSIVE. (Call by my place to collect your golden-rod)
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    If Rathbun still takes Russell Targ and Fritjof Capra as gurus, then he may just be evolving into a common or garden flake. But I suppose adding one more of those can't do so much harm.

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