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    This is a well commented on subject.

    The tech dictionary (as I remember it) describes Clear as "Being at cause over mental matter, energy, space & time".

    On looking up "at cause" it said ; Able to greate or uncreate.

    The state of Clear occurs when the person realises that they ate mocking it all up.

    There is NOTHING in Scn materials that stipulates this can only occur whilst engaged in Scn activities.

    This leads, of course, to heresy of olympic proportions.

    I have successfully rehabbed many people's state of clear where they were doing a wide range of activities; TM, yoga, presence drills, aikido. It does not matter a jot what the person is doing, it is the fact that they have achieved that realization.

    Many cases got "parked" because they were denied the truth of this.

    It is funny to watch cult fanatics try and grapple with this datum. they go quite demented in trying to enforce the Scn connection with the state.

    I am sure many readers out there can connect with this. If you went clear doing something other than Scn, then acknowledge it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DartSmohen View Post
    There is NOTHING in Scn materials that stipulates this can only occur whilst engaged in Scn activities.
    Not sure about that. Damn my poor memory!

    Quote Originally Posted by DartSmohen View Post
    I have successfully rehabbed many people's state of clear where they were doing a wide range of activities; TM, yoga, presence drills, aikido. It does not matter a jot what the person is doing, it is the fact that they have achieved that realization.
    Did they all have "the Clear Cog"?

    My all-time favourite is someone who reportedly went Clear watching Mary Poppins.
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    Welcome to ESMB Dart Smohen!

    I've seen the name Dart Smohen before - any significance to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Welcome to ESMB Dart Smohen!

    I've seen the name Dart Smohen before - any significance to this?
    In late 1967,v early 1968 LRH wrote a secret EO on Xenu (or Xemu, as you wish).

    In it Hubbard refers to the events he described at the time. He states that at the time he was operating a doll-body and his identity was DART SMOHEN. His post at the time was TREASURER.

    The R6 implanters operated as The Brightenden (or Brighton) Film Company and Xemu was entrapped in an electronic mountain trap on an asteroid/planet a long way away.

    As far as I remember, only a few people had seen the EO. It was always kept locked away.

    That should piss the cult off, one of their great secrets now in the public domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
    Not sure about that. Damn my poor memory!



    Did they all have "the Clear Cog"?

    My all-time favourite is someone who reportedly went Clear watching Mary Poppins.

    Yes they did. It is no big deal.

    Love the idea of going clear watching Mary Poppins, I have even had it suggested to me that someone also achieved it during a personal act of self-excitement! - But I am not so sure about that happening.

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    Welcome Dart.

    There IS a reference (issued in the 80's) that says people can only "go clear" on Dn's and Scn processes. I will try to dig it up for you if you are interested.

    In talking with some "old-timers" they were regaling me with stories of Rehab tech. IN particular, there was a story of a guy who went to LA for power, and just got plowed in completely. The C\S at the time just had the auditor "rehab" the power EP, (achieved in some other long gone practice) and the guy came to life, glowing like a light bulb.

    Rehabs like that are no longer done, AFAIKT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Div6 View Post
    Welcome Dart.

    There IS a reference (issued in the 80's) that says people can only "go clear" on Dn's and Scn processes. I will try to dig it up for you if you are interested.

    In talking with some "old-timers" they were regaling me with stories of Rehab tech. IN particular, there was a story of a guy who went to LA for power, and just got plowed in completely. The C\S at the time just had the auditor "rehab" the power EP, (achieved in some other long gone practice) and the guy came to life, glowing like a light bulb.

    Rehabs like that are no longer done, AFAIKT.
    Hullo Div 6,

    Once the genie is out of the bottle, the game is blown open. A person goes clear when they go clear. To contain this to within the limits of Scn & Dn should be regarded as a rather suppressive act. But I suppose they are quite ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DartSmohen View Post
    Hullo Div 6,

    Once the genie is out of the bottle, the game is blown open. A person goes clear when they go clear. To contain this to within the limits of Scn & Dn should be regarded as a rather suppressive act. But I suppose they are quite ok with that.
    Indeed.

    There has been much discussion of this here and elsewhere. The most charitable being the LRH was Unflat on PrPr1, and stuck on "being source" (never flattening the "no source" leg of the process).
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    But do they stay Clear? Both in and outside the CoS.

    We've been over this ground before.

    It seems to me that if you don't know what happened you may have difficulties. At least that was my experience.

    The weird thing about people who've had the Clear Cog is that it doesn't seem necessary in a CCRD to understand why they were mocking up facsimiles in the first place. Or am I wrong? If you overrun someone who went Clear on Dn they've still had the cog but they start mocking up the bank (or parts of it) again.

    Before I called myself Clear I'd want to be damn sure I understood everything about it and that I could mock-up and unmock a bank at will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DartSmohen View Post
    Yes they did. It is no big deal.

    Love the idea of going clear watching Mary Poppins, I have even had it suggested to me that someone also achieved it during a personal act of self-excitement! - But I am not so sure about that happening.
    I was twinning with a girl on TRs once and someone else teamed up and gave her some explicit sexual bullbaiting. Next day she said she went clear when making out with her husband.

    Clearly something was working.

    It may possibly be something practitioners of Sex Magick achieve. Some
    advocate a freezone bridge before doing Magick.

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