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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Sounds more like he vaguely remembered Parsec as being some kind of scientific thingamajig, so if he changed it slightly to Farsec it would add credibility as it would look familiar to people. Kinda like the similarity of Xenu to the prefix xeno- meaning alien or strange.

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    The nearest habitable planet is ten farsecs away,
    called Poxima Centauri. The Milky way is
    30 Kilo-farsecs across....
    And andromeda is 780 Kilo farsecs away..
    Ooops, its sez Parsecs, NEVERMIND......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Where does this "Farsec" thingy appear, anyone? Is it in Solo NOTs or OT8? Some Hubbard advice only seen by a few?

    There's a thread on ESMB over here called:
    Anyone else remember the good old day on Planet Farsec?
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...-Planet-Farsec

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    I saw the handwritten LRH *advice* on psychiatrists and Farsec, I saw it visually and also the typewritten version when i worked at OSA INT.
    Last edited by Karen#1; 4th February 2015 at 02:55 AM.

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    Mark 'Marty' Rathbun: Scientology Beliefs.

    https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/20...ology-beliefs/

    * * * * * BEGIN QUOTATION * * * * *

    In plain English, here are the core religious beliefs of scientology:

    Scientology Beliefs

    1. Planet Earth is a prison. The vast majority of human beings – and billions of invisible other beings – are its inmates.

    2. Xenu is the name of scientology’s Satan who established Earth as a prison and transported billions of beings to serve as its inmates.

    3. Our continued imprisonment is assured by ‘psychs.’ ‘Psychs’ are defined as psychiatrists, psychologists, psycho-therapists, priests, ministers, and anyone else practicing in the field of the mind and spirit. Psychs were sent here from a planet called ‘Farsec.’ They are a special breed of being created and invested with the sole purpose of keeping humankind mentally imprisoned.

    4. Ron Hubbard is the first to discover the truth of 1 through 3 above, and the only one to have devised a means of escaping the prison planet.

    5. Navigation through the only hole in the wall consists of closely emulating Hubbard and behaving as he did when he lived.

    6. Enemies, including psychs as well as anyone expressing any doubt or reservation about these beliefs, must be destroyed by any means necessary by scientologists. Such means include lying, suing, cheating, harassing, intimidating, blackmailing, smearing and by physical violence.

    7. Scientology ‘technology’ consists of a sophisticated mix of pop psychology and hypnotism carefully designed and administered so as to lead people to wholeheartedly accept and live according to these beliefs.

    8. When a scientologist has expended all of his best efforts in the vain pursuit of these beliefs he is expected to ‘discard’ his body so that he may continue to pursue them without such a physical ‘impediment’.

    Whether the ultimate belief, number 8 above, constitutes suicide is a wholly subjective question of religious belief.

    * * * * * END QUOTATION * * * * *

    German translation - Deutsche Übersetzung
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    Mark 'Marty' Rathbun: Scientology Glaubensinhalte.

    https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/20...ology-beliefs/

    * * * * * ANFANG DES ZITATS * * * * *

    In einfachem Englisch, hier sind die Kernstücke der religiösen Glaubensinhalte von scientology:

    Scientology Glaubensinhalte

    1. Planet Erde ist ein Gefängnis. Die große Mehrheit der menschlichen Wesen - und Milliarden anderer, unsichtbarer Wesen - sind seine Insassen.

    2. Xenu ist der Name von scientology's Satan, der die Erde als ein Gefängnis eingerichtet hat und Milliarden von Wesen hierhertransportiert hat um als seine Insassen zu dienen.

    3. Unsere fortdauernde Gefangenschaft ist sichergestellt durch 'Psychs'. 'Psychs' sind definiert als Psychiater, Psychologen, Psychotherapeuten, Priester, Pastoren/Seelsorger, und alle Anderen die im Gebiet von Verstand und Geist praktizieren. Psychs wurden hierher gesandt von einem Planeten namens 'Farsec'. Sie sind eine spezielle Rasse von Wesen, erschaffen und [invested = "investiert" / invested -> infested?? = "besessen"] mit dem einzigen Zweck, die Menschheit in geistiger Gefangenschaft zu halten.

    4. Ron Hubbard ist der Erste der die obigen Wahrheiten von 1 bis 3 entdeckt hat, und der Einzige der die Mittel entwickelt hat, dem Gefängnisplaneten zu entkommen.

    5. Die Navigation durch das einzige Loch in der Wand besteht darin, Hubbard streng nachzueifern/nachzuahmen und sich so zu verhalten wie er tat als er noch lebte.

    6. Feinde, inklusive Psychs sowie Jedermann der irgendwelche Zweifel oder Vorbehalte über diese Glaubensinhalte ausdrückt, müssen mit allen erforderlichenn Mitteln zerstört werden durch Scientologen. Solche Mittel schließen ein zu lügen, verklagen, betrügen, belästigen/schikanieren, einschüchtern, erpressen, Schmierkampagnen, und durch körperliche Gewalt.

    7. Scientology 'Technologie' besteht aus einem ausgeklügelten Mix von "Pop-Wissenschaft" und Hypnose, sorgfältig designt und angewendet, um Leute dazu zu verleiten diese Glaubensinhalte von ganzem Herzen zu akzeptieren und ihnen angemessen zu leben.

    8. Wenn ein Scientologe sich verausgabt hat mit all seinen besten Anstrengungen in dem vergeblichen Versuch diesen Glaubensinhalten zu folgen, wird von ihm erwartet seinen Körper 'abzulegen', so dass er sie weiterhin verfolgen kann ohne solch ein physisches 'Hindernis'.

    Ob der ultimative Glaube, obige Nummer 8, Suizid bezeichnet/konstituiert, ist eine vollkommen subjektive Frage religiösen Glaubens.

    * * * * * ENDE DES ZITATS* * * * *

    Mixing languages in head PLUS Scientology beliefs PLUS Martyspeak --> feeling like " ".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulloldfart View Post
    Where does this "Farsec" thingy appear, anyone? Is it in Solo NOTs or OT8? Some Hubbard advice only seen by a few?

    Paul
    Ask any OT8,

    they should have whole track recall.

    Any of you OT3's recall Xenu?

    No wonder Hubbard had to create a mystery, (shore story being it would cave people in, LOL)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    Ask any OT8,

    they should have whole track recall.

    Any of you OT3's recall Xenu?

    <snip>
    OK, I'm not OT III, however I DO recall Xenu (also spelled Xemu).

    In fact, I knew all about him years before I got involved with Scientology.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Type4_PTS View Post
    OK, I'm not OT III, however I DO recall Xenu (also spelled Xemu).

    In fact, I knew all about him years before I got involved with Scientology.




    oh yes the comic books and sci fi.

    They are but sublime, in my byline.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublime_(literary)

    "The earliest text on the sublime was written sometime in the first or third century AD by the Greek writer (pseudo-)Longinus in his work On the Sublime (Περὶ ὕψους, Perì hýpsous). Longinus defines the literary sublime as "excellence in language", the "expression of a great spirit" and the power to provoke "ecstasy" in one's readers.[1] Longinus holds that the sublime may be found in every work, since the goal of a writer should always be to produce a form of ecstasy."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstasy

    Ecstasy may refer to:




    -------------

    Now, I'm saying scientology produces these affects,

    but, I'm say'in they ain't real, the ecstasy. But just what the affect was. (since the goal of a writer should always be to produce a form of ecstasy, which is what Hubbard did).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen#1 View Post
    I saw the hardwritten LRH *advice* on psychiatrists and Farsec, I saw it visually and also the typewritten version when i worked at OSA INT.
    And what, pray tell, did it say? Oh and, I waive any KR's for giving me verbal data. You can tell me with a clean heart. Mimsey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimsey Borogrove View Post
    And what, pray tell, did it say? Oh and, I waive any KR's for giving me verbal data. You can tell me with a clean heart. Mimsey

    The handwritten and typed advice I saw said exactly what Marty said : quoted below This was sent to Heber so he could pump up rhetoric and animosity on psychiatrists at the speaking events he did.
    (paraphrased)

    Planet Earth is a prison. The vast majority of human beings – and billions of invisible other beings – are its inmates.
    Our continued imprisonment is assured by ‘psychs.’ ‘Psychs’ are defined as psychiatrists, psychologists, psycho-therapists, priests, ministers, and anyone else practicing in the field of the mind and spirit. Psychs were sent here from a planet called ‘Farsec.’ They are a special breed of being created and invested with the sole purpose of keeping humankind mentally imprisoned.
    Ron Hubbard is the first to discover the truth of 1 through 3 above, and the only one to have devised a means of escaping the prison planet.
    Last edited by Karen#1; 4th February 2015 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen#1 View Post

    The handwritten and typed advice I saw said exactly what Marty said : quoted below This was sent to Heber so he could pump up rhetoric and animosity on psychiatrists at the speaking events he did.
    (paraphrased)
    "
    Planet Earth is a prison. The vast majority of human beings – and billions of invisible other beings – are its inmates.



    Our continued imprisonment is assured by ‘psychs.’ ‘Psychs’ are defined as psychiatrists, psychologists, psycho-therapists, priests, ministers, and anyone else practicing in the field of the mind and spirit. Psychs were sent here from a planet called ‘Farsec.’ They are a special breed of being created and invested with the sole purpose of keeping humankind mentally imprisoned.


    "
    lets run that paraphrased statement thru

    http://rhetoric.byu.edu/pedagogy/rhe...0heuristic.htm

    and the truth will be revealed, that is Hubbard's use of rhetoric.


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