To the Ex-es:What was the final straw?

[Jesus666]

How did david get in charge anyway?

[The Oracle]

"We paid for peace
and got police."

"Miscavige is guilty of extortion,
Diana may fix this whole
abortion".

"WE will lay down all
our arms, if Diana steps
up to fix the harms."

"Turn the girl loose.
and we drop the noose."

"Free Diana, and the rest
of us the freedom planners".

David drop the false illusion,
step down and let a real solution".


T.O.

[The Oracle]

How did david get in charge anyway?

“People keep saying, ‘How’d you get power?’ ” Miscavige said. “Nobody gives you power. I’ll tell you what power is. Power in my estimation is if people will listen to you. That’s it.”

http://www.sptimes.com/TampaBay/1025...logypart1.html

T.O.

[The Oracle]

I guess my best argument for Diana Hubbard is that I have known her. She is in a "serve" mentality.

DM is in a "Must be served" mentality.

And Hubbard said "To command is to serve".

He knew it, even if he he went into the "must be served" menatality himself.
He didn't hold back the truth of the matter.

T.O.

[Jesus666]

“People keep saying, ‘How’d you get power?’ ” Miscavige said. “Nobody gives you power. I’ll tell you what power is. Power in my estimation is if people will listen to you. That’s it.”

http://www.sptimes.com/TampaBay/1025...logypart1.html

T.O.

Thats a nice quote and all but im wondering how he got his position, did hubbard give it to him?

[Veda]

The real key to achieving something with a protest is to offer up a solution at the same time.

If protestors demanded Diana take over the church, it would be a lot more forceful.

I would be willing to stand in a protest that had a resolution as part of it's message.

And I would be willing to embrace the Church again if Diana were in charge.

She came to pac once and spent her holiday liberating everyone on the rpf by doing folder/justice corrections.

She is the rightful leader of the Church.

She cares about the people in front of her.

Hubbard dedicated original SOS to her.

It is the only hope we have right now.

T.O.

The original 'SOS' ('Science of Survival') was dedicated to daughter Alexis, as an attempt to win back Sara (2nd wife) in 1951. When the attempt didn't work the name was quickly removed, and Alexis disowned, and Sara described as a Communist.

(Years later, Alexis was contacted by an agent her father. The encounter is described in a letter from Alexis' mother, Sara, to author Paulette Cooper. The letter was retrieved from a Scientology file cabinet in 1977 after the issuing of search warrants by the FBI. - Search warrants resulting from the accidental exposure of Hubbard's 'Snow White' Operation.

http://www.solitarytrees.net.silver....per/aff_sn.htm )

Diana was born in 1953.

In any event, it's unlikely that Diana would want the job running her father's mental-healing-coated personality cult, although you're probably right, if Diana could take over, and loosen the slave bracelets (I mean the Clear bracelets) just a little - so they wouldn't chafe- the membership, would be overjoyed.

[Veda]

Thats a nice quote and all but im wondering how he got his position, did hubbard give it to him?

In 1982, Hubbard assigned Miscavige the job of looting the 'Missions', and Miscavige pleased Hubbard in that regard. However, the exact transfer of power is unclear.

[Dulloldfart]

The final straw for me was too much injustice--getting removed from post for the third time for something that had nothing to do with my post production.

Paul

[Snuffy]

Thats a nice quote and all but im wondering how he got his position, did hubbard give it to him?

It's a bit long, but here's a chapter from Jon Atak's A Piece of Blue Sky that talks about the power struggle that happened after LRH died.

http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/bs8-5.htm

Hope it's not tl/dr ....

[Reasonable Lady]

After I completed my staff contract, I thought I would try working at missions to see if conditions were any better. In a lot of ways they were, the pay was much better, people had a life outside of Scn. and in general the staff were treated well. Then, at one mission where I was replacing a woman while she was away on a training cycle, around the time that the woman whose post I was holding came back from her training cycle, the new, Flag Trained C/S (case supervisor, the person who oversaw the auditing sessions) also arrived. With in one week, the new C/S prefaced his comment about a session that I had delivered with, "FIND OUT WHY THIS AUDITOR ALWAYS .....(I'll skip the technical jargon)". This is not how good C/Ses treat auditors. I had a chat with the senior C/S, (who was leaving for reasons unknown to me) who had a meeting with me, the new C/S, the mission holder and the Qual Sec. The senior C/S basically, politely but publicly, blasted the new C/S's method of dealing with auditors. Soon after, the sr C/S left, I had finished the job that I had come to do and I left. I have no idea if the new C/S became human or kept his "Flag Trained" persona. To get back to the original question about final straws, that was mine, career wise. The invalidating, nasty senior persona was not an anomoly restricted to one strata of Scn. It could and would pop up anywhere and unless there was a more senior person willing to handle it, you were screwed. Scientology, a terrible career choice.

RL