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    Quote Originally Posted by lotus View Post
    Okay all of you guys..

    If you are good boys and good girl right here right now, Auntie lotus will tell about the last EMDR session adressing the ''obscene dog''
    We pulled a long thread there...
    Kay ????

    Was it Vistaril Puppy?

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    but this one
    (for aduts only - offensive content)

    It's embarrasing..but truth must be told!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustSheila View Post

    So, back to thread topic:

    Here is a wonderful post by Dr. Patti Jane about EMDR Therapy:
    Bringing back this quote by Dr. Patty Jane later in the thread is a great idea, especially since I have made a lot of strides around the EMDR model (even though I have not exactly done the lights with the eyes and the buzzies since the the little fiasco). The parts Dr. Patty refers to, i.e.: the "floor" and the "groundwork," meaning the protocol that needs to be set in order for EMDR to take place is exactly the strategy we've been using as of recent months. It is because I've had my nose in my book (memoir) and have been reliving multiple traumas, so the whole concept in EMDR of getting the traumatized dissociative person into the here and NOW hasn't been easy. For now, we have been focusing on the self-soothing, at least until I can hand this manuscript off to the second editor (coming next week in fact).

    Dr. Patty is also right that in the session that went wrong, these grounding steps were missing. My therapist was not yet certified and we just "jumped" into it. I didn't really understand what was going on or how EMDR even worked. I've since read a lot about it, and, many different treatments for trauma that seemed to be based on EMDR idea, especially those that establish nurturing and protective figures to use as an inner resource. Perhaps some time I can talk about "The Conference Room" with you guys if I feel I have the guts for it. That's been very interesting.

    Meanwhile my therapist has deeply studied various books from the Francine Shapiro Library, that specifically focus on trauma cases, and, as I said she is now fully accredited for EMDR, plus continues to do other courses. She's shares with me some of the course descriptions, like this one I found very interesting, written by Paulson:

    Unmodified EMDR can harm dissociative clients if it prematurely breaches dissociative barriers overwhelming the client’s capacity and resources. Practitioners must screen for dissociation and use special procedures to safely use EMDR with these clients. The workshop will cover critical guidelines and techniques to pace and troubleshoot EMDR with dissociative clients within the phased treatment model, for clients ranging from DDNOS to DID. Assessment and stabilization are key to preparing clients for trauma work. The workshop offers methods to increase affect tolerance, establish a two-step containment habit, and orient personalities to person place and time. Other topics include: increasing tolerance of body sensation and affect, and enhancing compassion for self and others, directly working with introjects or other “monstrous” shame-laden parts, essential to reducing internal conflict and resistance to therapy. The workshop instructs in specific ego state strategies and imagery to provide sufficient resources, maintain an observing ego. Rooted in the hypnotic tradition, stabilization methods to pace and fractionate the work within EMDR while interspersing trauma work with sessions that consolidate gains. The workshop also describes the conference room method and means to trouble-shoot stuck processing. Finally, the workshop describes the final phases of therapy, skills building, integration and fusion.

    Participants will be able to : ♦♦ explain why and when to assess every client for degree of dissociation and choose an appropriate protocol. ♦♦ list six tactics for stabilizing clients, prior to doing EMDR for dissociative clients, to increase rapport, contain affect, orient to present circumstances, reduce inner conflict, and build coping resources. ♦♦ structure EMDR sessions using imagery and ego state interventions for pacing, fractionating and trouble-shooting the work.

    Anyway, just interesting stuff. I'm sure I'll get there.
    Thanks for the welcome back.

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    EZ Linus,

    That was a great post and well written!

    Thank you for taking the time to post a detailed description, as you have. I'm sure it will be helpful to others here, whether lurkers or members.
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    I just read EZ Linus full post too.

    I recognize in these informations the exact protocol we are following.; prepare the ground is very inportant and the client establish how the therapist will work.

    My situation being different we work on a short time basis and it must goes quickly.
    Not having any previous mental\emotional issue (apart from a severe trauma a decade ago) there is no vulnerability there to protect.
    So I demanded the therapist we took the big shovell So, we address something on an urgent basis to desintensy it. So we jumped in it ASAP after she prepared the ground.
    But the therapis just told me it is not usually her way to work with people..the assessment and relations (main emotional ties - like attachement to mother) are very important. We are in that in the 4th session. (quite fast though)

    (I am sorry my english is real bad these days...I hope it is readable though)

    The key concept to retain is that EMDR thereapy, despite being a very powerful technique, is approached a set of tools and the client as a whole to hea while adressing the many parts.

    I have been amazed at the speed of progresses when both, the therapist and client, suddenly stumble upon something that has a string to pull few of them on a time line of similar events connecting the arise from deep under as fast as the brain\emotional can process and integrate it. The feeling is not something as being Key out..but a relief of emotional\mental\physical upset and suffering. But the work has to be done with relaxation, meditation, techniques to reinforce \ stabilize the new state of beingness...It too does help the mental\emotional\body into a new path or scheme of thinking and functionning. (I was not given any suggestion stuff though...this I wouldn't do anyway...I remained stubborn with that)

    We had 3 sessions now (half an hour of the emdr - which is 1 1\2..and the results are way more that what I could have imagined. The changes are remarkable. The self (not the ego though) regaining is amazing ..a lot of serenity and ses of recovering own power. But it does requires a lot of energy and a lot of rest. I am dealing with a collapse of adrenaline which had been my main fuel for long time I must rebuild energy reserve.

    (that often happens with people encountering a severe trauma..this is why it is very important to adress it..burning adrenaline is not a way to live a long healthy life)

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