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    Lately Marty Rathbun has adopted the meme pushed by corporate Scientology for decades. The "anti-Scientology cultist."

    Such people as "perimeter defense" covert operative "Bernie" have been promoting this for decades. So do hired "wog" cult apologist "scholars."

    "Perimeter defense" means away from Scientology but still attacking its enemies.

    Sad to see Marty sink to this level.


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    IF Marty has become the latest "weapon" of OSA against "us" then it shows just how close to extinction the cult really is.

    There is a barrage of "entheta" emanating from a no-longer-cowed media and a steady trickle of celebrities leaving that threatens to publicly become a flood.

    It's unknown how many of the Faithful rank-and-file (S.O., staff and public) are quietly leaving but there appears to be a complete inability to even keep the doors open anywhere in the cult but a few major centres like FSO, the AOs etc.. The few culties that have been seen in the real world by me or those I know well here in Oz are cowering imbeciles unable to function in the presence of SPs real and/or imagined.

    There's no strategy appearing to resurrect the cult brand that's going to change the current torrent of exposure of crimes and abuses. Duke Miniscule only seems to have His "open new buildings" to fall back on. And now Marty, The Oracle, Alanzo et al ?

    Where's Tom Cruise? Travolta? Krusty? Heber?

    So, my message to Marty and his crew, any OSA lurkers and those simpletons who continue to believe that the cult is on track for planetary domination thanks to Drunken Maggot and His minions:

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    Who is this aimed at?

    Whether it is the cherch or simply a one man revenge trip, who is the intended reader that is supposed to be turned off by the words?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonomog View Post
    Who is this aimed at?
    This is the 1000$ question. On the surface, his blog postings serve no purpose, other than to get even on perceived injustices inflicted on him by the Anti Scientology Community (ASC). There is still that chance that he's acting independently from the Co$. But, I very much doubt it.

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    <<<<< I blame me.

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    Quoting your post from another thread, Veda, because it's relevant to this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Veda View Post
    Except that, by dismissing anyone and everyone who posts on Marty's blog as a [fill in any uncomplimentary description] it mainly serves to forward Marty's use of Hubbard's Battle Tactics.

    The model that Marty, in a somewhat sloppy way, seems to be following is that of old ("perimeter defense") fake critic "Bernie":

    http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-w...ly.com/ars.htm

    Before the era of the participatory Blog, Bernie would search for quotes from anyone with a disagreement or upset with any critic of Scientology and use those quotes. Sometimes, he'd befriend these persons. Many of these people were used unwittingly by Bernie, and most had no idea what Bernie was really doing.

    Bernie's shtick was that he wasn't part of corporate Scientology but a "critic," so his comments and information were worthy of being taken seriously.

    There are other variations. Some are more obviously corporate Scientology sites.

    Below is a link to one such $cientology disinformation site - not as well disguised as what Bernie does.

    Amongst other things, and like the Bernie site, it lies about, and continues to attack, Paulette Cooper. The first attempt at framing Cooper with making "bomb threats," in 1972 ('Operation Dynamite'), did succeed, resulting in her being brought before a Grand Jury. It came very close to destroying her life.

    And yet, this site, outrageously, attempts to mislead by asserting:

    http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-w...ation-freakout

    It even blows Bernie's cover (slightly) linking to the 'Bernie' site. Notice the link at the end of the piece under "One of them is here." "Here" is in red.

    So if Marty, his "Independent Scientology" books and all, is secretly working on behalf of corporate Scientology these days, it's been done before.


    And I Wonder what Marty, in his current role, would say if anyone asked him about Paulette Cooper?
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    I nominate the term "Anti-Scientology Cult" as the official replacement for the far more cumbersome mouthful, "Bitter Defrocked Apostates And Bloggers Living On The Fringes Of The Internet."

    "Anti-Scientology Cult" rolls off the forked tongue so much easier...
    And ASC is so much easier to remember than BDAABLOTFOTI

    Thanks Marty.
    Quite a legacy.
    In the exact same way that, at the last moment, legal defeat was snatched, inexplicably, from jaws of victory, years of honest, if incomplete, truth-telling and public exposure of the crimes and predations of the Mafia-like, Scientology Cult are being eclipsed by the incarnation of "Marty, the Guru" - oddly reminiscent of the "Ron" series.

    The Truth Rundown Series by Childs and Tobin revealed the hitherto unseen, dark soft underbelly of the Scientology beast and Marty, along with the other courageous people earned the respect and gratitude of the entire ex-Scientology community, a wildly diverse assortment people and philosophies at various stages of recovery, healing and growth.

    But here's the thing:
    People who are newly out of Scientology need a safe harbor where they can decompress, and begin to heal.
    They need honest and accurate information about the methods and manipulations that Scientology uses, and which held them captive.
    They need to repair the architecture of their minds.
    And to that end, ESMB and The Underground Bunker provide safe harbors.
    Emma and Tony Ortega are very good people.
    Yet, sadly they are the ones Marty and his remaining acolytes have in their cross-hairs.

    OSA dearly needs and wants to eliminate such safe harbors and populate them instead with assorted loons, kooks and conspiracy theory nuts. Hey, you guys know who you are, right?

    Fortunately for the ex-Scientology community most of them are hanging out over there with ol' Marty.
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    Thanks Ethercat. I had no idea what Veda was talking about....who's Bernie? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I nominate the term "Anti-Scientology Cult" as the official replacement for the far more cumbersome mouthful, "Bitter Defrocked Apostates And Bloggers Living On The Fringes Of The Internet."

    "Anti-Scientology Cult" rolls off the forked tongue so much easier...
    And ASC is so much easier to remember than BDAABLOTFOTI

    Thanks Marty.
    Quite a legacy.
    In the exact same way that, at the last moment, legal defeat was snatched, inexplicably, from jaws of victory, years of honest, if incomplete, truth-telling and public exposure of the crimes and predations of the Mafia-like, Scientology Cult.

    The Truth Rundown Series by Childs and Tobin revealed the hitherto unseen, dark soft underbelly of the Scientology beast and Marty, along with the other courageous people earned the respect and gratitude of the entire ex-Scientology community, a wildly diverse assortment people and philosophies at various stages of healing and growth.

    But here's the thing:
    People who are newly out of Scientology need a safe harbor where they can decompress, and begin to heal.
    They need honest and accurate information about the methods and manipulations that Scientology uses, and which held them captive.
    They need to repair the architecture of their minds.
    And to that end, ESMB and The Underground Bunker provide safe harbors.
    Emma and Tony Ortega are very good people.
    Yet, sadly they are the ones Marty and his remaining acolytes have in their cross-hairs.

    OSA dearly needs and wants to eliminate such safe harbors and populate them instead with assorted loons, kooks and conspiracy theory nuts. Hey, you guys know who you are, right?

    Fortunately for the ex-Scientology community most of them are hanging out over there with ol' Marty.
    One of the best summations I've seen. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildKat View Post
    Thanks Ethercat. I had no idea what Veda was talking about....who's Bernie? LOL
    The current "meme" looks like a rerun to those who were on ars during that time period.

    Discussing Marty is discussing something "not scientology" and is too convoluted for people new to the subject to follow. It also provokes (some) people into what appears to be fanaticism, leading those who are new to think all "sides" are some form of crazy they don't want any part of, and they quit looking at the real subject - scientology. This is nothing new.
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