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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthetan View Post
    I haven't heard of public being pressured to not have children, but would not be surprised if it happened from time to time. For a public, having a baby makes you ineligible for the Sea Org. It also means that you will have much less time for Scientology, and less money to spare.
    Having been classified as an "Illegal PC"....I certainly was aware and thought of the fact that anyone that I married would, therefore, become "illegal" also....and any children I had would be illegal.....in the eyes and policy of the Cult.

    Being labeled "Illegal PC" by the Cult......for my situation.....would have been an on going label....and would have "tainted" any relationship....and would never be "fixable" or "redeemable"....via any Cult Policy.

    This all, IMO, did greatly affect my life and thoughts of marrying and having a family....during my 27 years in the Cult.

    I certainly was aware of the onerous nature of being an Illegal in the context of the Cult....and passing that burden onto another....was certainly a thought for me...


    So...what I'm saying in regards to this thread is that ....there was "built in" pressure within the Cult System that certainly has bearing on this topic....on many levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena Handbasket View Post
    I don't claim to know everything in this area but bopping in is definitely easier than bopping out. To be a bit poetic about it, once you enter a body, the GE holds on to it with one arm and you with the other.

    I'm not saying the thetan always jumps in one day before birth; I'm just saying I entered THIS body one day before birth at the beginning of THIS lifetime. (Perhaps it was available that late because it was not a great choice -- "on the discount rack" so to speak.)



    My personal opinion is to allow abortions during the first trimester. Not only does this correspond to the established rules in most jurisdictions that allow abortions, but is well on the side of caution.

    Anyone "needing an abortion" would have plenty of time to arrange it, if they were proactive.

    Of course, if they were really proactive, they wouldn't need an abortion to begin with. This is the better choice.

    Enough for now!! This thread is giving me somatics.

    Helena
    I think it's most unwise to assume that through what you learned in Scientology, you understand what is really going on with babies in the womb. Hubbard was a liar, and very much mistaken about many things.

    To think that as long as you kill a fetus during the first three months, then you are not really killing a person is pretty conceited. I don't believe you really know. And to assume that you know, based on Hubbard's ramblings, or some conclusions you came to while practicing his teachings is foolish. Especially after leaning of the many things he was just flat out wrong about.

    Reading OT III before doing the auditing leading up to it can kill you? Utter bullshit. People only criticize the cult because they have crimes? He probably knew he was lying, and said it for control purposes.

    Have you heard the stories of all the people who decided they were famous personalities in past lives? Including Hubbard himself? How about the stories of multiple people claiming to have been the same person? Happened all the time. Certainty in this cult means fully deluded.

    I could go on, but I think I made my point. Trusting anything you thought you leaned about the soul from this cult is the height of folly in my opinion.

    But let's give Hubbard the benefit of the doubt. Let's say thetans do jump in fetuses during pregnancy. What if the thetan jumps in at, say, one month? Being god-like beings, why not. If you then aborted that fetus, that would be murder, right?
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