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    Quote Originally Posted by PJSmith View Post
    We (Fr. Frank Pavone, Victoria Gisondi and myself) are from Priests for Life, Rachelís Vineyard and Silent No More. We are pro life workers who recognize the lasting damage abortion has on women, but especially forced abortion. Priests for Life/ Silent No More/ Rachelís Vineyard are part of an international ministry that offers healing after abortion for men and women through activism and through healing retreats.

    www.priestsforlife.org www.rachelsvineyard.org www.silentnomore.com

    We are interested in offering healing and would like your help on the best way to reach them. If you know someone that needs help, please share the websites or contact me via private message.

    Also, our organizations have a wide enough platform where we could mobilize the public. We also have various access to media outlets and could continue to broadcast and interview victims of Scientology.

    We recognize that not everybody shares our convictions about abortion so we come, not as proselytizers, but as friends offering help and resources for those who choose it. Besides our desire to help any families who been victimized by forced abortions , we also share a commitment to help expose human rights violations and abuses committed by church of Scientology.
    Message cross-posted to Why We Protest (WWP), the home of Anonymous on the web concerning Scientology:

    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/art.../#post-2600607

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJSmith View Post
    We (Fr. Frank Pavone, Victoria Gisondi and myself) are from Priests for Life, Rachel’s Vineyard and Silent No More. We are pro life workers who recognize the lasting damage abortion has on women, but especially forced abortion. Priests for Life/ Silent No More/ Rachel’s Vineyard are part of an international ministry that offers healing after abortion for men and women through activism and through healing retreats.

    www.priestsforlife.org www.rachelsvineyard.org www.silentnomore.com

    We are interested in offering healing and would like your help on the best way to reach them. If you know someone that needs help, please share the websites or contact me via private message.

    Also, our organizations have a wide enough platform where we could mobilize the public. We also have various access to media outlets and could continue to broadcast and interview victims of Scientology.

    We recognize that not everybody shares our convictions about abortion so we come, not as proselytizers, but as friends offering help and resources for those who choose it. Besides our desire to help any families who been victimized by forced abortions , we also share a commitment to help expose human rights violations and abuses committed by church of Scientology.
    Welcome. It's great you're taking a stand against $cientology but after reading your sites I'm not impressed with you using the $cio-cult as an excuse to forward your political-legislatively aimed religious agendas.

    It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. - Robert A. Heinlein
    War is Peace - Freedom is Slavery - Ignorance is Strength. George Orwell
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire
    It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena Handbasket View Post
    While I of course consider forced anything to be evil, I don't consider abortion itself to be an evil.


    IMHO that should be shortly before birth. I remember I entered this body one day before being born.

    However, the GE enters the body at around the time of conception. If you consider that aborting a body with a GE in it is evil, then of course it is evil. (And the thetan CAN, later on, copy the GE's charge from an attempted abortion [AA].)



    Perhaps there was AA in your past? If not this lifetime, then a previous one? That would explain that.

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    Each time I spot hypocrisy, it turns around and points at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Being Me View Post
    Welcome. It's great you're taking a stand against $cientology but after reading your sites I'm not impressed with you using the $cio-cult as an excuse to forward your political-legislatively aimed religious agendas.

    It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. - Robert A. Heinlein
    I will take all the allies I can get. Left-wing, right-wing, and radical-middle included.
    ďThe man who does not value himself, cannot value anything or anyone.Ē
    ― Ayn Rand,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthetan View Post
    I will take all the allies I can get. Left-wing, right-wing, and radical-middle included.
    I'm more of a middle-wing person myself. But it's hard for me to find clothes, because I take an extra-medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthetan View Post
    I will take all the allies I can get. Left-wing, right-wing, and radical-middle included.
    The abortion issue is usually quite divisive, with people being passionate about either being "pro-life" or "pro-choice", but this issue with the forced and coerced abortions within Scientology is different and already has got the support from people on both sides.

    These women were not given a choice. This is a disgusting violation of human rights by the Co$ and needs to be exposed.

    I'm grateful for any organizations including Priests For Life who help do this.

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    And I hope eventually members of the Scientology public who were never staff or sea org but yet had their family life interfered with and were coerced into abortion come forward also.

    There are surely hundreds, maybe thousands?
    "You mocked up Scientology. It's time to as-isn't it." -Freeminds

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    Thank you all for your replies on this post. Please feel free to contact me (once I get cleared to get private messages).



    Quote Originally Posted by PJSmith View Post
    We (Fr. Frank Pavone, Victoria Gisondi and myself) are from Priests for Life, Rachelís Vineyard and Silent No More. We are pro life workers who recognize the lasting damage abortion has on women, but especially forced abortion. Priests for Life/ Silent No More/ Rachelís Vineyard are part of an international ministry that offers healing after abortion for men and women through activism and through healing retreats.

    www.priestsforlife.org www.rachelsvineyard.org www.silentnomore.com

    We are interested in offering healing and would like your help on the best way to reach them. If you know someone that needs help, please share the websites or contact me via private message.

    Also, our organizations have a wide enough platform where we could mobilize the public. We also have various access to media outlets and could continue to broadcast and interview victims of Scientology.

    We recognize that not everybody shares our convictions about abortion so we come, not as proselytizers, but as friends offering help and resources for those who choose it. Besides our desire to help any families who been victimized by forced abortions , we also share a commitment to help expose human rights violations and abuses committed by church of Scientology.

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    Thank you! We are definitely wanting to help in any way we can. I can understand that sharing personal information is something many are reluctant to do. Silent No More website is strictly confidential.

    Quote Originally Posted by Free to shine View Post
    Thankyou for your offer of help! It is a very difficult subject for many to talk about, especially coming from a cult environment and it is good to know that people in the world are willing to see an end to forced abortion. I'm not sure what response you will get as with ex cult members there is a healthy paranoia about sharing personal information, however having a link resource is a good thing.

    You need to have posted twice before you can send or receive private messages. Welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena Handbasket View Post

    Perhaps there was AA in your past? If not this lifetime, then a previous one? That would explain that.

    Helena

    No, no. I have good authority that a pixie did it.

    "Of course, if it's true that Mr. Hubbard was never injured during the war,
    then he never did heal himself using Dianetics principles,
    then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is based on a lie." - Tommy Davis


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