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    Default Re: Marty Rathbun . . . has he gone silent ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu Belle View Post


    If you recall, from the document Monique filed to end the lawsuit, it stated:

    b) my husband and I have effectively achieved the primary purpose that the lawsuit was originally intended to serve by our own independent efforts.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/310825810/Monique-Rathbun-v-Scientology-request-to-lift-stay


    I always kind of wondered exactly what that meant. It was never elaborated on, to my knowledge...

    Wasn't the primary purpose of the lawsuit to stop the harassment and surveillance of the CoS and collect damages for what had been done to them already?

    How do you achieve that purpose without negotiating a settlement with CoS?

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    Default Re: Marty Rathbun . . . has he gone silent ?

    Quote Originally Posted by barely80 View Post
    Marty is alive and doing well.
    OK, no one else is commenting or speculating on this, so I guess I will. Gizmo asked about Marty's current status, and this newbie poster "barely80" pops up and responds with the above post, which is their FIRST post on ESMB.

    So what are we to make of it?

    We're being trolled by someone who knows dick about Marty......?

    OR.....

    This person really does know Marty and is cryptically trying to communicate to us with a post that says nothing really concrete. LOL. Coincidentally, Marty has been known for making cryptic and mysterious pronouncements, to be followed by.....nothing concrete.

    Whatever....

    So which is it I wonder?
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    I don't bother with ''theta' statements about people
    What makes me spin are ''entheta'' statements about people....

    That would be one of the first time I see a troll attack saying '' He is alive and doing fine''

    A very weak troll though!


    But hey, I like those trolls...Moarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type4_PTS View Post
    With regards to your comment about him being a "stand up guy", sitting in a bar with someone for several hours as you've done doesn't really allow you to be able to judge someone's character.
    Well several hours is better than a tenth of a second.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...n_(psychology)

    " It takes just one-tenth of a second for us to judge someone and make a first impression.[11] Research finds that the more time participants are afforded to form the impression, the more confidence in impressions they report.[11][12] Not only are people quick to form first impressions, they are also fairly accurate when the target presents him or herself genuinely. People are generally not good at perceiving feigned emotions or detecting lies."


    Quote Originally Posted by Type4_PTS View Post
    There's much evidence contrary to him being a stand up guy, including some here in this thread.

    Have you actually read this thread Terril?

    Yes, he's done some damage to the CoS in the past.

    More recently he seems to be doing damage to the enemies of CoS.

    An EX who trusted him now after reading this thread and Tony Ortega's recent blog posts would be a fool.
    IMO He has been a stand up guy. I think that is part of
    his basic character. Yes I have read this thread and Marty's
    blog for years.

    Is he to be trusted now? I don't know or understand what
    Marty's been thinking for some time now. Its clear he's been
    under what has probably been extreme pressure. After 190
    or whatever days of squirrel busters Its not characteristic of
    CO$ to turn the other cheek it is characteristic of them to use
    whatever weapon legal or otherwise ethical or otherwise to
    get their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanic89 View Post

    No one knows to my understanding why Marty has acted like he has in the recent past but looking at how he treats people and his past actions it does not look pleasant. One thing I am sure of though he is not a philosopher or some great thinker, he does seem damaged and angry though.
    Here I agree with you broadly. I don't know how he treats people
    since he left CO$. He dissed Karen and it seems she dosn't know
    why it seems and certainly seems unwarranted.

    Philosopher and great thinker? I see him more as a student
    playing catch up and doing very well at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustSheila View Post
    Oh the irony of that example.

    If only I had a dollar for every sincere promise made to a drinking man in a pub by one of his drinking mates and another dollar for every time the promise was broken and the drinking man would not believe his pub mate would do that.
    Marty made no promise to me. He seems to have had a cognition
    that his action would draw the fire of CO$ away from other
    independents. He certainly drew the fire, whether that helped
    spare other independents I don't know.

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    Originally Posted by Terril park

    I expect like most in the SO Marty didn't even get a high school
    education. Was immersed in a cult. Yet he broke away from
    all that, espousing Carl Rogers and his client centered approach to
    therapy and Martha Stout for her insights into what in CO$ is ethics
    and PTS and the area of justice, and other respected thinkers and philosophers.He also has done more to fight against CO$ injustice
    than possibly anyone else.

    This is not a pseudo intellectual. He is not qualified to be an
    intellectual. No degrees, no professorships. He has pulled
    himself up by his bootstraps.

    He is a stand up guy. You are an armchair quarterback.



    Quote Originally Posted by Type4_PTS View Post
    With regards to your comment about him being a "stand up guy", sitting in a bar with someone for several hours as you've done doesn't really allow you to be able to judge someone's character.

    There's much evidence contrary to him being a stand up guy, including some here in this thread.

    Have you actually read this thread Terril?

    Yes, he's done some damage to the CoS in the past.

    More recently he seems to be doing damage to the enemies of CoS.

    An EX who trusted him now after reading this thread and Tony Ortega's recent blog posts would be a fool.


    I think Terrill was using the Scientology definition of "Stand Up Guy".


    def.

    Stand Up Guy - idiom: 1. A being conducting themselves by the highest ethics standards. 2. A small being who stands up on command in order to applaud and cheer the photograph of a larger being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelluvaHoax! View Post
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    I think Terrill was using the Scientology definition of "Stand Up Guy".

    def.

    Stand Up Guy - idiom: 1. A being conducting themselves by the highest ethics standards. 2. A small being who stands up on command in order to applaud and cheer the photograph of a larger being.
    To give you an opportunity to exercise your humorous abilities
    how about a Scio def of "Armchair quarterback"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    Here I agree with you broadly. I don't know how he treats people since he left CO$. He dissed Karen and it seems she doesn't know
    why
    it seems and certainly seems unwarranted.

    Philosopher and great thinker? I see him more as a student
    playing catch up and doing very well at that.


    Using LRH's Data Series tech, I think I may have come up with the WHY:

    Because Rathbun is sometimes
    an untrustworthy, unpredictable,
    treacherous, backstabbing asshole?


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    I’ve been debating about whether to post this… It may be out of line and if so I apologize in advance.

    But it’s been bothering me, so here I go.

    The whole Marty and Monique adoption thing always seemed…don’t know the word. Surprising?

    Maybe I’ve been misinformed about the whole adoption process. But I always had the idea that it wasn’t easy to adopt a kid. Especially a white newborn baby with no known problems or disabilities. That’s kind of cream of the crop adoption-wise.

    Kind of got the idea that you had to have a lot going for you to be able to do that. No financial problems, clean background, etc. Clearly able to raise and pay for a child.

    And I always got the idea the process itself was expensive. Like thousands of dollars.

    Am I wrong? I very well could be. But that was the impression I always got.

    Soooo………how did they do it? Where did they get the money? How did they overcome the obvious issues, such as Marty’s notorious background? His employment – and his unemployment - history? His age? To name only a few factors.

    I just feel like…there’s more to this whole situation than we know.

    Has anyone else wondered about this?
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