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    Quote Originally Posted by rod707 View Post
    Greetings, its the newbie again,


    I was expecting my earlier post to get flamed. I am happy that I received this helpful attention. Of course Im still waiting to hear from the hundreds of FZ auditors to bid on my case.


    The response also serves to alarm me that I am getting some agreement that the Freezone is not very prevalent. Just to use a kind word.

    Cheers,

    Rod
    What do you think about the way PC Folders are handled in the FZ? The Church makes members sign an agreement that the folders belong to the Church and they give the impression, which we know to be false, that there is some kind of professional confidentiality.

    I expect most independents have no professional certification or degree or board oversight and therefore no doctor patient confidentiality.

    Who does the CSing and do they have any professional certification or legal oversight?

    Who and where are folders stored and who has access to them? What happens to them if there is a cessation of communication or the PC dies or cannot be contacted?

    Do you have any control over how the information is transmitted? If it is put into digital form then it can be hacked or distributed more broadly than one might want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod707 View Post
    Greetings, its the newbie again,


    I was expecting my earlier post to get flamed. I am happy that I received this helpful attention. Of course Im still waiting to hear from the hundreds of FZ auditors to bid on my case.


    The response also serves to alarm me that I am getting some agreement that the Freezone is not very prevalent. Just to use a kind word.

    Cheers,

    Rod
    Hey Rod,

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    The comprehensive (and still free of charge) PaulsRobot site at www.paulsrobot3.com does include some modules as close as possible to the Scn originals (Ruds, L1C, 20-button prepcheck, Exp ARC S/W, Exp Grade 0, Ext/Int stuff, etc). The non-Scn modules there tend to work better, Scn being so outdated now, but anyway, whatever floats your boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod707 View Post

    -snip-

    Two people here need auditing.

    -snip-

    Really really need to get an auditor.


    Rod
    Would it be an intrusion to ask, specifically, about the reason for so seriously needing an auditor?

    Are Review or Repair actions desired?

    Restimulation in life?

    Unflat old sessions?

    Or is there a wish to do further levels, or complete a level?, such as concern about being Clear and having not done OT 3 (being in the "no interference area")?


    Often, with a little discussion with an experienced person, the seemingly urgent need may cease seeming to be so urgent or serious.

    There are some very experienced people here who may be able to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod707 View Post
    Greetings, its the newbie again,


    I was expecting my earlier post to get flamed. I am happy that I received this helpful attention. Of course Im still waiting to hear from the hundreds of FZ auditors to bid on my case.


    The response also serves to alarm me that I am getting some agreement that the Freezone is not very prevalent. Just to use a kind word.

    Cheers,

    Rod
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    I'm in the Monterey area. What are you looking for in the way of auditing?
    The FZ is indeed very fragmented, with no overall control and no way of disciplining or correcting anyone. As far as I can tell, most of the input to it is either ex-Scn people who are looking to get their cases sorted out after being beaten up in the COS, or a very few new people who wonder what might be under all that garbage that keeps people still interested and looking, despite the awful PR.

    Just so you know, expect auditing to cost some serious money, or some serious time, or both. There are still some places you can go coaudit after training - I'm considering setting up such a situation myself.

    Roland

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalBigBlue View Post
    What do you think about the way PC Folders are handled in the FZ? The Church makes members sign an agreement that the folders belong to the Church and they give the impression, which we know to be false, that there is some kind of professional confidentiality.

    I expect most independents have no professional certification or degree or board oversight and therefore no doctor patient confidentiality.

    Who does the CSing and do they have any professional certification or legal oversight?

    Who and where are folders stored and who has access to them? What happens to them if there is a cessation of communication or the PC dies or cannot be contacted?

    Do you have any control over how the information is transmitted? If it is put into digital form then it can be hacked or distributed more broadly than one might want.
    Those are some important questions you've asked, worthy of their own thread imo.

    If a FZ Scientologist gets into a dispute with his auditor, what's to keep the auditor from threatening to upload his clients "confidential" PC folder up onto the internet?

    I do know of an individual who was in fact threatened by their auditor. Not with the release of confidential info as in the hypothetical example I gave, rather he was threatened with physical harm.

    Hey Rod!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rod707 View Post
    Greetings, its the newbie again,


    I was expecting my earlier post to get flamed. I am happy that I received this helpful attention. Of course Im still waiting to hear from the hundreds of FZ auditors to bid on my case.


    The response also serves to alarm me that I am getting some agreement that the Freezone is not very prevalent. Just to use a kind word.

    Cheers,

    Rod
    too funny Rod and ROFLMAO

    I'll bid on your "case", just read Dianetics and get a partner to do the same, and in a few hundred hours you will be both "clear". Afterall the COS is still selling that book DMSMH, simple easy peesy. LOL

    Cheers

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