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    Y'all got a bad case of static cling.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    I think that quote you provided from Hubbard is quite interesting. The key words of the quote are "agreement", and that is all what Hubbard did, was get agreement. It worked on some, and not others. Others who didn't agree will labeled PTS and SP or wogs.
    Yeah - that caught my attention as well. Now I know why Phenom said we didn't know shit. She be one smart cookie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    I think that quote you provided from Hubbard is quite interesting. The key words of the quote are "agreement", and that is all what Hubbard did, was get agreement. It worked on some, and not others. Others who didn't agree will labeled PTS and SP or wogs.
    I great summary of scientology indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib View Post
    I think that quote you provided from Hubbard is quite interesting. The key words of the quote are "agreement", and that is all what Hubbard did, was get agreement. It worked on some, and not others. Others who didn't agree will labeled PTS and SP or wogs.
    What is true for you is true for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    Never came across anything else that deals with the concept of Static.
    However as was his wont Hubbard defined what he meant by the term.
    By that its definitely non material, yet has abilities.

    "Axiom 1

    Life is basically a Static.

    Definition: A Life Static has no mass, no motion, no wavelength, no location in space or in time. It has the ability to postulate and perceive."


    Sometimes I think that Hubbard was having fun with us poor believers. I can just imagine Hubbard telling his buddies, "I'll bet ya all that I will get these idiots to believe that scientology can cure cancer".

    And a week later he was cashing in.

    Saying that "life" and "static" are the same thing must have emptied a few wallets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimsey Borogrove View Post
    Or if you were defining God....


    He straight out said it once.

    From the Route to Infinity tape #6 (21May 1952):
    "God is everywhere... he isn't watching you... you are it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakemaker View Post
    He straight out said it once.

    From the Route to Infinity tape #6 (21May 1952):

    "God is everywhere... he isn't watching you... you are it."
    Nice find!

    But, to be honest, I struggled with exactly what Dr. Hubbard meant by that.

    Thus, I attempted (and pulled off!) what may be the coup of the decade at ESMB! I am talking about getting in com with the Commodore via theta com. I actually put a com in and made myself known.

    OMG! Ron actually answered me! I was almost too shocked to talk or even breathe!

    Using what Ron taught me about TRs, I got ahold of myself and focused my com particles and began having a conversation where I literally ASKED him what he meant!

    [ NOTICE FOR CONCERNED READER'S: I asked and received permission from Ron to reprint any/all of our theta universe conversation here on ESMB ]


    ME
    So, Ron, if I may call you that--there were some things you said
    while you were on this planet that I didn't fully get. I'd like to
    run some of those by you for clarification, if you don't mind.

    RON
    That's fine, go right ahead.

    ME
    Awesome, Ron. Well once you were giving a audiotaped lecture
    and you said this: "God is everywhere. He isn't watching you.
    You are it."
    WTF, right, Ron? LOL. I mean what the hell
    were you talking about?

    RON
    Have you tried clay?

    ME
    C'mon man, if I may call you that. Can't you just tell us the
    answer. I know it's verbal data and all that, but you did 3000
    taped ninety-minute lectures. That's 4,500 hours of talking.
    Wasn't all that "verbal data"?

    RON
    No, no, no! I am the Founder, so I get to violate the policy
    of not giving verbal data. Policy is just for you people.

    ME
    Oh! Okay, great, thanks for clarifying that. You are awesome!
    So, what about that quote dude, if I may call you that?

    RON
    Well, you see the being in his native state has a potentiality
    of determined and infinite action that would make Jesus and
    the Biblical god look like a degraded hobo warming his hands
    around a trash barrel fire!

    ME
    Whoa! Wait, that hobo thing sounds kind of familiar. I
    don't know what just happened, kind of a deja vu moment or
    something. Anyways, I mean when you said "you are it"
    what kind of mumbo-jumbo bullshit is that, you
    double-talking freak, if I may call you that.

    RON
    Did you look up and clear the the word
    "you" and all of its definitions?

    ME
    I don't need to look it up. It means me.
    You are saying I am God? No disrespect,
    but if I'M god, then why the hell did I
    pay a half million dollars to you, you
    lying scum bag con artist, if I may call you that.

    RON
    No, clearly what I meant was I am God.

    ME
    But you used the word "you"!

    RON
    So what? It's called survey tech.
    I just said whatever people wanted
    to hear so they would pay me billions.

    ME
    OMG, wouldn't that mean that you are actually
    a raving 1.1 SP criminal (if I may call you that), the
    exact same thing you warned everyone about? The
    very same evil being that you advised everyone
    to avoid, disconnect from and destroy by any means?

    RON
    Yeah, exactly. Maybe next time you
    DBs down there will finally start
    listening to my damn advice!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    Scn axiom 1 is a statement that life is spiritual in nature. This is
    Quote Originally Posted by Terril park View Post
    a view shared by many philosophies and religions and this idea is
    expressed in a variety of ways. To explore this idea further is a
    valid goal of philosophy.


    To say my preferred definition makes me evil and toxic is nasty.
    This does you no credit.
    Terril,

    This response by you is a good example of why you are treated as some sort of joke and ridiculed here on ESMB . . . it demonstrates your inability to to actually see and respond correctly and exactly to what is written . . . it also demonstrates, an effort not to deal with truth, but your effort to distort the facts of what is posted to make yourself "right" and try and make others "wrong" . . . trying to discuss truth with you is like talking to the service facsimile of the universe.

    You write to accuse me of making you evil and toxic, as I highlight above in red.

    That sir, is a demonstration either of ineptitude or a deliberate attempt at distortion of fact used to besmirch another.

    I wrote per my post copied below,

    Originally Posted by RogerB
    Terril, you write " Nothing evil or toxic about that."

    Oh really? You think there is nothing evil or toxic about perverting language and truth . . . all the time posing as an authority??

    Don't you see the damage that kind of thing does, has done?

    I have discussed "Axiom One" at length with a number of literate and clever people . . . and believe it, what Hubbard wrote as Axiom One is a mind numbing piece of bullshit.

    As I have posted before on ESMB, and I've found among the guys/gals on my Knowledgism forum . . . they all had to interpret what the hell Hubbard was getting at and thereby actually had to pervert what he said to make it work.

    Going to a good, correct real dictionary, you will find that "life" is anything BUT "a static" . . . or "static"! Try dictionary.com as an example.
    And that referred to, note the word "that," referring to Hubbard's bullshit . . . it is clear to sensible people that I am referring to Hubbard's bullshit not to you. And indeed, the discussion I entered referred to Hubbard and his erroneous utterances, not to you.

    In post 558, you yourself addressed the point of Hubbard's utterances, here.

    post 558
    Originally Posted by strativarius
    No Terril, the reason scientology has failed is because the general public has woken up to the fact that it is an evil and toxic scam and anybody who is made aware of the true facts (as are the people on this message board) and yet continue to support it are beneath contempt IMO.


    Terril wrote:
    The organisation is evil. Here are the two first axioms of Scn. Nothing
    evil or toxic about that.

    Axiom 1

    Life is basically a Static.

    Definition: A Life Static has no mass, no motion, no wavelength, no location in space or in time. It has the ability to postulate and perceive.

    Axiom 2

    The Static is capable of considerations, postulates and opinions.
    You state there is nothing evil or toxic in Hubbard's first two axioms . . . I respond to your assertion by stating there is something evil and toxic in Axioms 1 & 2 as highlighted in blue above.

    But you are so hung up in yourself that you take or otherwise misrepresent my exact words addressing Hubbard's crap to make it appear and to falsely accuse me of stating that you are evil and toxic . . .

    You are fond of throwing about the line that what others post "does them no credit" . . .

    You need to look in a mirror and see the source of who has discredited you . . . take a look and see who is the source of you being treated with ridicule here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerB View Post
    <snip>
    "...trying to discuss truth with you is like talking to the service facsimile of the universe."
    <snip>
    I damn near fell out of my chair. One of the funniest (and truest) quotes I've ever read on esmb!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Random Guy View Post
    I great summary of scientology indeed.
    why thanks.

    Hubbard said in his ARC triangle that ARC=Understanding. And Hubbard said the most important point was communication. The more you communicate the better the understanding, he said communication was the most important point, get your comm lines out there, communicate.

    Sounds grand.

    History shows that communicating about scientology is not quite right. You either agree or not, or the reality part of Hubbard's Reality.

    If there there was a triangle about human life, I'd say it's the triangle of ethos, pathos and logos, and Hubbard surely corrupted it to agreement.



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