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    I wanted to start a thread on what effects (if any) did being on Staff/SO have on your children (no matter their ages when you went in and got out?).

    I didn't see my children for a few years when I was in scn and joined staff. (gave them to their father...long story, to do with something before I ever got into scn)......

    I saw them when I got out and luckily they were still quite young and we've been in each others' lives ever happily, since

    They did do a few courses, but never took interest, thank god.

    Years later, SO recruiters got a hold of my then-12-yr old daughter and wouldn't let any of us out of the room till she signed (she wanted to,they made it sound sooo 'cool' you know) and WE sign her over to them....we signed ours for 'next lifetime' and all of us read the stupid crap they make you read, some pledge or some such thing.... then for months after, they kept telling her to not wait till 18 (like she wanted to) but to join at 14..WE never had any intention of letting them have her at ANY age, but just signed the damn things to get out of the room!

    But still, they grew up in a strict christian religion themselves, so they could identify what kind of a group scn was and they were happy when we left it.

    I'll never forget the night we told them we are officially 'out'.

    We had a wonderful bonfire that night, and quietly explained to them the reasons we left. Suddenly the flames got low, but *gasp* Looky HERE, we've got these three BIG pieces of paper that those nice SO recruits gave us, we could use;)

    They understood, agreed and felt very relieved that we'd have more time for them and be free, etc. Then they helped feed the fire to keep it burning brightly, you know....

    Anyway: I know my story is kindergarten next to many of yours regarding your children...please share them here!

    This will help many parents and children, I hope.

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    I get really tired of hearing about how the lower bridge has value. The lower bridge has the sole purpose of getting the PC to reach for more bridge. The fact that many people improved their circumstances as a result of a good intentioned auditor being interested and caring about his PC is not worth the long term and intended result of Scientology technology. GT

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    Sorry. This is by no means an attempt to divert your thread. It is on topic. Please, despite what I write, others tell your stories as well about children in the Sea Org.

    As for me, and my children: they are both dead. Enforced abortion. I was married at the time. There was no real reason to abort. I did it for the Sea Org. So I could stay.

    I would have a 14 year old and a 6 year old now.

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    Default Hugs to you, Bea....

    it belongs here.

    And ALL of you who endured abortions due to scn, no matter if you were in the Sea Org and felt 'persuaded' to get one, or were Staff or even Public and felt one was 'for the greatest good', etc...post, please!

    I want all these types and more on this one thread for ease in viewing with regards to the effects CoS had and still has on children.

    Also belonging here: if the poster is/was a child of SO/Staff parents and wants to post here their opinions, etc.

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    I get really tired of hearing about how the lower bridge has value. The lower bridge has the sole purpose of getting the PC to reach for more bridge. The fact that many people improved their circumstances as a result of a good intentioned auditor being interested and caring about his PC is not worth the long term and intended result of Scientology technology. GT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    Sorry. This is by no means an attempt to divert your thread. It is on topic. Please, despite what I write, others tell your stories as well about children in the Sea Org.

    As for me, and my children: they are both dead. Enforced abortion. I was married at the time. There was no real reason to abort. I did it for the Sea Org. So I could stay.

    I would have a 14 year old and a 6 year old now.
    I'm so sorry Bea. I cannot imagine how it would feel to be in your shoes. You were wronged. Those babies were wronged. I only hope you can forgive yourself and understand how much power the organization had over us.

    This is a perfect example of squirreling of the tech by the organization itself.
    Remember Dianetics? One thing that originally impressed me about that book when I first read it back in 1974, was the information about babies in the womb......

    To inflict this upon members of the SO is at the farthest end of evil.
    I can't wait until

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    This makes me want to cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    Sorry. This is by no means an attempt to divert your thread. It is on topic. Please, despite what I write, others tell your stories as well about children in the Sea Org.

    As for me, and my children: they are both dead. Enforced abortion. I was married at the time. There was no real reason to abort. I did it for the Sea Org. So I could stay.

    I would have a 14 year old and a 6 year old now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    As for me, and my children: they are both dead. Enforced abortion. I was married at the time. There was no real reason to abort. I did it for the Sea Org. So I could stay.

    I would have a 14 year old and a 6 year old now.
    A little interjection here, but...

    This is to Bea and everyone else who had this sort of thing:-

    It's not the same, I know. And not to make light of it. But...

    Y'all got over 9000 kids now. Okay, we're a little crazy, we all wear masks, and we might get a little rowdy. But hey. We're rowdy because we don't like bad things happening to our mommies and daddies and aunties and uncles, and brothers and sisters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousID-V42B View Post
    A little interjection here, but...

    This is to Bea and everyone else who had this sort of thing:-

    It's not the same, I know. And not to make light of it. But...

    Y'all got over 9000 kids now. Okay, we're a little crazy, we all wear masks, and we might get a little rowdy. But hey. We're rowdy because we don't like bad things happening to our mommies and daddies and aunties and uncles, and brothers and sisters.

    thanks sweetie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousID-V42B View Post
    A little interjection here, but...

    This is to Bea and everyone else who had this sort of thing:-

    It's not the same, I know. And not to make light of it. But...

    Y'all got over 9000 kids now. Okay, we're a little crazy, we all wear masks, and we might get a little rowdy. But hey. We're rowdy because we don't like bad things happening to our mommies and daddies and aunties and uncles, and brothers and sisters.

    Thank you. Beautifully said. I love it. I may still think of myself as a sister, cause well, er uh, , I dont have too many grey hairs yet....

    Thanks to all of you. You guys are all great...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousID-V42B View Post
    A little interjection here, but...

    This is to Bea and everyone else who had this sort of thing:-

    It's not the same, I know. And not to make light of it. But...

    Y'all got over 9000 kids now. Okay, we're a little crazy, we all wear masks, and we might get a little rowdy. But hey. We're rowdy because we don't like bad things happening to our mommies and daddies and aunties and uncles, and brothers and sisters.

    +Ohhhhhh, *bittersweet tears* THAT is soooo sweet of you to say, Anon~

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    I get really tired of hearing about how the lower bridge has value. The lower bridge has the sole purpose of getting the PC to reach for more bridge. The fact that many people improved their circumstances as a result of a good intentioned auditor being interested and caring about his PC is not worth the long term and intended result of Scientology technology. GT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea Kiddo View Post
    Sorry. This is by no means an attempt to divert your thread. It is on topic. Please, despite what I write, others tell your stories as well about children in the Sea Org.

    As for me, and my children: they are both dead. Enforced abortion. I was married at the time. There was no real reason to abort. I did it for the Sea Org. So I could stay.

    I would have a 14 year old and a 6 year old now.
    I'm so sorry for your losses.

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