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    Thanks Grundy about my daughter's pic.

    All: Here is my very first video I made for her 18th birthday,
    PLEASE rate and comment if anyone cares to!

    Several of the pics in it are of my first reunion with my kids, immediately after blowing Staff, too.

    Enjoy!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=-78b9-KXl0E

    Mods: Thought it fitting to put this in 'Our Children' but if you feel it better moved to 'Videos' section, I understand!
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    I get really tired of hearing about how the lower bridge has value. The lower bridge has the sole purpose of getting the PC to reach for more bridge. The fact that many people improved their circumstances as a result of a good intentioned auditor being interested and caring about his PC is not worth the long term and intended result of Scientology technology. GT

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    Voiceless is making a video using letters on this thread. If you don't want yours to be included let me know asap. If you want to say something to your children and have not done so yet, please post in the next couple of days. Thanks

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    Nothing new for me to say, but if it's going to get some volume, please include my Open Letter to Nitza, Zeb, and Galadriel (it's a thread in this forum). Thanks!

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    Default Like living in hell

    Sea Org kids,such as myself, went through hell on a daily basis. We only had 15-30 mins for meals which sometimes was only rice and beans. One time we were tricked in eating "horse tongue" as burgers. We were never given money and if we did it was nothing. Our parents mostly never bought us anything.

    For events, I had to save my pennies just to buy a dress and pantyhose. I had to buy my sister socks and underwear when I was only 9 myself. I had to teach her the alphabet and to read. When I got out at 16, I had the education of a 10 year old. I was the oldest kid in high school as I needed so many credits I was lacking. My sister who still in, cant even pass her GED as she doesn't understand math, history or government. It took me many years to catch up and go to college.

    We had to endure hard labor-sheet rocking,mudding,painting,stripping,shoveling, etc We had to wake up early and go to sleep around 12:00 or 1:00am. On stat night, we would stay up til 4:00amtoo many times to remember.
    We had to endure adults on power trips taking their anger out on us physically,mentally, sexually.

    We had to feel alone and that are parents were just other beings,that their bodies were borrowed for the thetan inside. We had to starve for love and attention. We cried endless nights, feared the worst and sucked up our pride. We never were indiviual, we had no thoughts of our own, no one heard our voices. You didn't complain. I was sent to the adult RPF when I was 12 or 13 years old!! Mothers couldn't stomach it but had to.

    It is disgusting!!If you have minor kids in there, you better step up to the plate and get them the hell out of there. I dont care if your scared, that's only a emotion...we lived it and many others are still living it. We are fucken scared for life. My life in there was living hell....and my parents were from INT..so you see it didn't matter how high your parents were...they had no influence to be there for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free1996 View Post

    It is disgusting!!If you have minor kids in there, you better step up to the plate and get them the hell out of there. I dont care if your scared, that's only a emotion...we lived it and many others are still living it. We are fucken scared for life. My life in there was living hell....and my parents were from INT..so you see it didn't matter how high your parents were...they had no influence to be there for you.
    Thanks for posting that. The thing that riles me the most is the abuse of children. It needs to be yelled out with great volume! Those who make excuses and look the other way are just as responsible. God it makes me so angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by free1996 View Post
    Sea Org kids,such as myself, went through hell on a daily basis.

    It is disgusting!!If you have minor kids in there, you better step up to the plate and get them the hell out of there. I dont care if your scared, that's only a emotion...we lived it and many others are still living it. We are fucken scared for life. My life in there was living hell....and my parents were from INT..so you see it didn't matter how high your parents were...they had no influence to be there for you.
    Thank you for writing this.....the truth is an ugly one. Sometimes it can eat us up from the inside out. I am glad you are out and tellin it like it is.
    I can't wait until

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    bump.
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    I get really tired of hearing about how the lower bridge has value. The lower bridge has the sole purpose of getting the PC to reach for more bridge. The fact that many people improved their circumstances as a result of a good intentioned auditor being interested and caring about his PC is not worth the long term and intended result of Scientology technology. GT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisened One View Post
    I wanted to start a thread on what effects (if any) did being on Staff/SO have on your children (no matter their ages when you went in and got out?).

    I didn't see my children for a few years when I was in scn and joined staff. (gave them to their father...long story, to do with something before I ever got into scn)......

    I saw them when I got out and luckily they were still quite young and we've been in each others' lives ever happily, since

    They did do a few courses, but never took interest, thank god.

    Years later, SO recruiters got a hold of my then-12-yr old daughter and wouldn't let any of us out of the room till she signed (she wanted to,they made it sound sooo 'cool' you know) and WE sign her over to them....we signed ours for 'next lifetime' and all of us read the stupid crap they make you read, some pledge or some such thing.... then for months after, they kept telling her to not wait till 18 (like she wanted to) but to join at 14..WE never had any intention of letting them have her at ANY age, but just signed the damn things to get out of the room!

    But still, they grew up in a strict christian religion themselves, so they could identify what kind of a group scn was and they were happy when we left it.

    I'll never forget the night we told them we are officially 'out'.

    We had a wonderful bonfire that night, and quietly explained to them the reasons we left. Suddenly the flames got low, but *gasp* Looky HERE, we've got these three BIG pieces of paper that those nice SO recruits gave us, we could use;)

    They understood, agreed and felt very relieved that we'd have more time for them and be free, etc. Then they helped feed the fire to keep it burning brightly, you know....

    Anyway: I know my story is kindergarten next to many of yours regarding your children...please share them here!

    This will help many parents and children, I hope.

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    I have no sympathy for any of the parents, or any adults who either observed the inhumanity of the cadet Org and did nothing about it, or who were to stupid to even observe it in the first place. Fuck you all.

    To anyone with children in the SO now free1996 says it all:

    Quote Originally Posted by free1996 View Post
    It is disgusting!!If you have minor kids in there, you better step up to the plate and get them the hell out of there. I dont care if your scared, that's only a emotion...we lived it and many others are still living it. We are fucken scared for life. My life in there was living hell....and my parents were from INT..so you see it didn't matter how high your parents were...they had no influence to be there for you.
    That is not hyperbole, that is the plain and honest truth. If you have minors in the SO and are not spending every moment of your life and every dollar in your pocket to get them out, then you are a worthless and detestable human being.

    To my fellow cadets and other Scientology children; if you are able to read this that means you won. Against all odds you have not only taught yourself to read and earned enough money to at least afford a computer, you have also manged to free your mind and body from the shackles of slavery that were imposed on you before you ever had a chance to fight back.

    You are worth 1,000 of the bastards that did that to us. Love yourself and above all give your own children a childhood full of the warmth, love and shelter that was denied to us.

    "But look how they treat us, make us believers we fight their battles, then they deceive us try to control us, they couldn't hold us 'cause we just move forward like Buffalo soldiers"


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    Quote Originally Posted by free1996 View Post
    Sea Org kids,such as myself, went through hell on a daily basis. We only had 15-30 mins for meals which sometimes was only rice and beans. One time we were tricked in eating "horse tongue" as burgers. We were never given money and if we did it was nothing. Our parents mostly never bought us anything.

    For events, I had to save my pennies just to buy a dress and pantyhose. I had to buy my sister socks and underwear when I was only 9 myself. I had to teach her the alphabet and to read. When I got out at 16, I had the education of a 10 year old. I was the oldest kid in high school as I needed so many credits I was lacking. My sister who still in, cant even pass her GED as she doesn't understand math, history or government. It took me many years to catch up and go to college.

    We had to endure hard labor-sheet rocking,mudding,painting,stripping,shoveling, etc We had to wake up early and go to sleep around 12:00 or 1:00am. On stat night, we would stay up til 4:00amtoo many times to remember.
    We had to endure adults on power trips taking their anger out on us physically,mentally, sexually.

    We had to feel alone and that are parents were just other beings,that their bodies were borrowed for the thetan inside. We had to starve for love and attention. We cried endless nights, feared the worst and sucked up our pride. We never were indiviual, we had no thoughts of our own, no one heard our voices. You didn't complain. I was sent to the adult RPF when I was 12 or 13 years old!! Mothers couldn't stomach it but had to.

    It is disgusting!!If you have minor kids in there, you better step up to the plate and get them the hell out of there. I dont care if your scared, that's only a emotion...we lived it and many others are still living it. We are fucken scared for life. My life in there was living hell....and my parents were from INT..so you see it didn't matter how high your parents were...they had no influence to be there for you.
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    and i read this and i want go jam up and jelly tight with the spirit of bayonet

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