An open letter to a former PC

[Dulloldfart]

I have heard, and understand that true spiritual beings do go so far exterior that the average Joe would mistake them for dead, but wouldn't one at least put postulate protection around the body if one intended returning to it?

I recall an account in Michael Murphy's "Future of the Body" (supposedly-definitive book on human meta-normal abilities) of an eastern mystic who allowed himself to be buried alive in a coffin under several feet of earth for several days. This was a demonstration for an Indian or Asian state governor, or something like that, maybe 100 years ago. Armed guards were posted 24 hours a day to keep watch and ensure no trickery. He basically slowed down his metabolism--no breathing. I don't know about heartrate. He survived, returning to normal, although he was very groggy at the beginning and indistinguishable from dead to the observers when first removed from his coffin.

Paul

[Cat's Squirrel]

Could well be true, my point is that you've got to be careful about using real world indicators as a yardstick for spiritual advancement. Someone once said to me (at a meeting for Independents in the UK) that people who are most successful at accumulating MEST, and therefore who look most successful in our materialistic culture, are those who are most in agreement with MEST; if true, that could be why so many spiritually inclined people have problems with money. (It also explains why the comedian Harry Enfield's empty-headed "Loadsamoney" character had a ring of truth for many).

Back to the state of Clear. I think we're all agreed that the end phenomena Hubbard was claiming for the state in DMSMH were a pipedream (total recall, etc.), so we need a new set. I can't think of one better than Pilot's and so far no one here has suggested one as far as I can see.

[Tanstaafl]

Could well be true, my point is that you've got to be careful about using real world indicators as a yardstick for spiritual advancement. Someone once said to me (at a meeting for Independents in the UK) that people who are most successful at accumulating MEST, and therefore who look most successful in our materialistic culture, are those who are most in agreement with MEST; if true, that could be why so many spiritually inclined people have problems with money. (It also explains why the comedian Harry Enfield's empty-headed "Loadsamoney" character had a ring of truth for many).

Just in passing, that character was based on Spurs fans who would get a wad of notes out of their wallets and wave them at (supposedly) poor Northern fans visiting White Hart Lane and shout "Loadsamoney!".

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Could well be true, my point is that you've got to be careful about using real world indicators as a yardstick for spiritual advancement. Someone once said to me (at a meeting for Independents in the UK) that people who are most successful at accumulating MEST, and therefore who look most successful in our materialistic culture, are those who are most in agreement with MEST; if true, that could be why so many spiritually inclined people have problems with money. (It also explains why the comedian Harry Enfield's empty-headed "Loadsamoney" character had a ring of truth for many).

Back to the state of Clear. I think we're all agreed that the end phenomena Hubbard was claiming for the state in DMSMH were a pipedream (total recall, etc.), so we need a new set. I can't think of one better than Pilot's and so far no one here has suggested one as far as I can see.

I have a great collection of MESS, sorry MEST, but still no money. I think those of us with an ethical streak don't actually like money. I would rather barter with other people. Accumulation of wealth for its own sake seems completely pointless; but in the world in which we live, we have to establish some sort of income just to get by. Look at all the "great" artists whose paintings fetch a fortune, yet when they were alive, the were only worth pennies.

[Cat's Squirrel]

Just in passing, that character was based on Spurs fans who would get a wad of notes out of their wallets and wave them at (supposedly) poor Northern fans visiting White Hart Lane and shout "Loadsamoney!".

Thanks for the info, didn't know that.

Royal Prince Xenu; I agree, and it's true of rock music as well. There's a story in Dan Baker's book "What Happy People Know" about a seriously depressed rock star (unnamed) who only recovered his mental health when he quit touring big stadiums and went back to playing in small clubs. He's poorer now but a lot happier.

The book's worth reading btw;

http://us.macmillan.com/whathappypeopleknow