The difference between Scn and Knowledgism

[Good twin]

I am not currently practicing Knowledgism or Scientology. I have a 30 year history studying Scientology and applying it. I have read only a couple of books on Knowledgism. Part of my unraveling since leaving the church has been revisiting my products as an auditor and FSM. As many of you know I helped one of my selectees get a substantial repayment from Flag. This seemed only fair since I had convinced her to give her money to Flag in the first place. It felt good to sort of unravel her as part of my own healing.
Anyway, my boyfriend, life partner, baby daddy has been one of my pet projects for years. He and I have an interesting history as most couples do. I also have audited him and regged him and assisted him in life and in getting up the bridge. Actually I have assisted him in getting up the bridge (up to OT 5), but not really in life. This has been a BIG problem for both of us for lotta some years. Seems the more I help him by applying the so called correct technology, the less able to handle life he becomes. For long time I went back and forth between justifying the churches shortcomings and justifying his shortcomings. Mostly I couldn't even imagine what might be wrong with me that I was so ineffective. Well you get the picture.
He's been reading Alan's books and listening to Alan's lectures. He is really enjoying it. That is nice. However, the big difference is....... I don't even know how to tell you. It's translating into life. It's just subtle right now. He threw things out. (that was major for me - he's never done that before) He is more "present". We both are hesitant to trust or believe anything, but are willing to look. Reading the books Alan wrote has taken ALL the mystery off the OT levels. That is the difference. Even after doing the OT levels they were shrouded in mystery. (as a control mechanism to keep you reaching) In Knolwedgism the whole mind f*#@ of OT becomes very understandable and repairable. It won't take thirty years and 300k to fix us. We are on our way. I am free to take what I want from Knowledgism with no ongoing contract. This is very cool.

[Iknowtoomuch]

Well done getting that repayment to your friend!

I'm not sure who Alen is. But Now I really want to know.

[Good twin]

Well done getting that repaiment to your friend!

I'm not sure who Alen is. But Now I really want to know.

Check members list. Alan.

[Mark A. Baker]

We are on our way. I am free to take what I want from Knowledgism with no ongoing contract. This is very cool.

Congrats!


Mark A. Baker

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

Great to see you reaching for even greater understanding.

can you expand a bit more on the "mystery" of the OT level, and what and how the knowledgism paradigm clarifies this?

On quick review, my operating targets where.

in my teens, "growth"
in my twenties, "awareness ability to perceive the ultimate truths"
in my thirties " to move up to the top of the bridge and evaluate an operate unencumbered"
in my forties " to acquire the wealth to accomplish the previous"
in my fifties " to focus on love as the guiding principle"

What are YOU finding that may help with the above?

[Good twin]

Great to see you reaching for even greater understanding.

can you expand a bit more on the "mystery" of the OT level, and what and how the knowledgism paradigm clarifies this?

On quick review, my operating targets where.

in my teens, "growth"
in my twenties, "awareness ability to perceive the ultimate truths"
in my thirties " to move up to the top of the bridge and evaluate an operate unencumbered"
in my forties " to acquire the wealth to accomplish the previous"
in my fifties " to focus on love as the guiding principle"

What are YOU finding that may help with the above?

In Knowledgism the theory and practices are explained in detail. The phenomena you experience in Scientology is "felt" but often not explainable. Knowledgism describes what is happening spiritually in Scientology more clearly then any of the Sci Fi whole track mumbo jumbo that LRH spoon fed us. In a nutshell....it makes sense. It doesn't force some fairy tale on you. Keep reading dchoice. Make up your own mind. I am no expert on this and I don't know that I would even recommend Knowledgism to everyone. It is a good choice for this person. It addresses and is handling what he was trying to address and handle in Scientology for several decades. For me right now. I'm enjoying being allowed to explore. It is a fantastic freedom. I'm not interested in some one size fits all philosophy. There is a whole wide world of ides out there and many could be valid. Knowledgism so far is workable and not creepy. That's pretty good by me.

[tookmeawhile]

Hi Good Twin,

It's great to hear you are both having wins in Knowledgism! I think it's great that you two are both reaching, to greater or lesser extent, for something other than Scientology. Sounds like you're both getting over the Co$.

Having met you and knowing how nice, funny and kind you are makes me happy to hear you two are winning in life!

[Tanstaafl]

More power to you and your SO GT!

[Zinjifar]

I'm not a Knowledgist, but, I can say that I've never run into a Knowledgist who was pursuing Knowledgism because he thought it was the only way to save the world (or, Clear the Planet.)

They do it because they *want* to, and, not because they *have* to.

Zinj

[Good twin]

Thanks you guys. No matter what I explore. No matter what I find useful. ESMB is my group now. I hope no one gets wigged out over this .......I just mean I guess no one could understand me or be understood by me better then all of you here on this message board. We are are true group by MY definition. BTW TMA I won't get the tattoo. Was just a passing fancy.