Anon=Terrorists?

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Hmm.. I just thought of a curious little detail.. Not intirely unconnected to the issue.. When I was in the Guardian's Office, we combatted 'deprogramming'.. We fought the deprogrammers. We worded the press releases carefully to use the word 'deprogramming' with some vile and evil definition. We drilled that, so we were really good at it!

So that we could get 'our' members back and 'reprogram' them....

Yup! - We actually used the word 'reprogram' in the GO! - Is/was that common everywhere?

[Iknowtoomuch]

High ethical standards. Seriously. I think what you mean is mistreatment.
Is the following "ethical"?
1. Making staff stay up to very late hours sometimes days at a time.
2. No study time.
3. Lack of sleep.
4. No family time.
5. No personal time.
6. Being screamed at for ridiculous reasons.
7. Being next to forced to have an abortion.
8. Being overboarded.
9. Getting little to no medical attention and having SO members die because of this.
10. No dental work. Not even checkups.
11. No getting up the so important bridge.
12. Ignoring that a kid needs an actual education and not allowing them to finish school.
13. Not letting people leave when they want to.
14. Adding policy that has no policy to back it.
15 it goes on and on....

It's so ethical because you can justify it...Justification means Overts.

If Scientology were really all that great, don't you think it would have more members! <<<Not a question.

[Pitbull]

Dear Iknowtoomuch,

Some of these things on the list apply ONLY to those who choose
to join Sea Org.

There are different expectations of those who join Sea Org.

I've made it quite clear that I am not Sea Org. I personally NEVER
wanted to join staff or sea org. I do understand that the dedicated
Sea Org members will sometimes put pressure on individuals to join.
Joining the Sea Org is not a joke to be taken lightly and some young
folks join for reasons I cannot comprehend.

But once in, they are subject to rules and conditions not expected
of public members.

[KnightVision]

Dear Iknowtoomuch,

Some of these things on the list apply ONLY to those who choose
to join Sea Org.

There are different expectations of those who join Sea Org.

I've made it quite clear that I am not Sea Org. I personally NEVER
wanted to join staff or sea org. I do understand that the dedicated
Sea Org members will sometimes put pressure on individuals to join.
Joining the Sea Org is not a joke to be taken lightly and some young
folks join for reasons I cannot comprehend.

But once in, they are subject to rules and conditions not expected
of public members.

So the SO members who are described by the Church of Scientology as the most honorable and dedicated to it's Goals and Doctrines are subjected to and expected to endure the worst ethical conditions. Doesn't that explain why the vast majority of them have abandoned the organization? Not to mention that this type of treatment by a "Church" towards it's adherents is inhumane and corrupt.

[Shifter]

Let's not forget the fact that the "official" PR line from the cult is that Disconnection does not happen

[Iknowtoomuch]

So the SO members who are described by the Church of Scientology as the most honorable and dedicated to it's Goals and Doctrines are subjected to and expected to endure the worst ethical conditions. Doesn't that explain why the vast majority of them have abandoned the organization? Not to mention that this type of treatment by a "Church" towards it's adherents is inhumane and corrupt.

Bingo.
Pitbull led himself/herself right down that path.

So if SO members are the most ethical, what are regular Scientologists?

[klidov]

At this point in his/their spiritual/intellectual growth, Pitbull is stunted. Stuck, unable to progress.

Brainwashed. And unwilling to address that fact.

I have debated/discussed faith/religion etc.....with everyone from card-carrying members of the Church of Satan to the Temple of Set.

(And the list is extensive). Pitbull falls into what I consider the most dangerous category. Pitbull has reached the point where this person will see a crime, and blame the victim. I base this on Pitbull's own words.

In a sense, Pitbull does us a favor by demonstrating the failed arguments of a brainwashed mind. The sad part, is Pitbull is a real person (or persons).

Till something real changes in Pitbull's thinking, I really do have nothing further to say to this person. (Or persons).

[Pitbull]

Iknowtoomuch:

Many are called but few are chosen.

And Kildov:

How do you know what I'm all about, and what do you offer that
is a better alternative to whatever it is I'm doing?

[klidov]

And, to get back on topic here, Anons are not terrorists.

An organization that would rob people of their ability to think, to reason, and to make choices for themselves, that is terrorism.

I suggest googling "Stockholm Syndrome". It will give insight into Pitbull's thinking. And people like him/her.

[asagai]

Anons are wonderful and I am looking forward to Rick Rolling with them again, in the streets of London on Saturday, while we inform the public about how the Cult Of Scientology (CofS) mis-treat the innocent children of its members!