KNOWLEDGISM, FREEZONE & SCN; THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE

[DartSmohen]

The rowing events at the recent Olympics bring this to mind.

The Scn cult boat has developed several leaks,it has a psychotic, screaming and abusive cox, ranting and bullying the rowers, who, in turn, are busy shouting at each other, writing reports about the poor rowing, sec-checking each other, trying to stop others from trying to dive overboard and swim to the shore and generally abusing the one poor sod who has lost his oar and is splashing his hand in the water,

On the shore are the fanatical team cheerleaders who are instructing their captive public when to clap, give all their money for watching this performance and generally trying to ignore the growing crowds of ex-supporters and anons who stand back, waving, smiling, offering cake and encouraging the cult crowd to get into com.

Now we have the boats from the others. They are pretty well relaxed, they are in comm with each other, they have a good idea what is expected of them, their cox's have a plan and have, at least, told their rowers what they will be doing.

The funny thing is that between the Freezone crews there is actually no contest. No one is trying to outdo the other, they are all there to enjoy the event.

The cult boat, however, has threatened dire consequences if they do not win. Their cox will not take any blame but will punish the rowers.

Sound familiar?

[Panda Termint]

^^^ Brilliant! I've missed your posts, Dart.

[Voltaire's Child]

Yeah! Great post!

[Mark A. Baker]

The rowing events at the recent Olympics bring this to mind.

The Scn cult boat has developed several leaks,it has a psychotic, screaming and abusive cox, ranting and bullying the rowers, who, in turn, are busy shouting at each other, writing reports about the poor rowing, sec-checking each other, trying to stop others from trying to dive overboard and swim to the shore and generally abusing the one poor sod who has lost his oar and is splashing his hand in the water,

On the shore are the fanatical team cheerleaders who are instructing their captive public when to clap, give all their money for watching this performance and generally trying to ignore the growing crowds of ex-supporters and anons who stand back, waving, smiling, offering cake and encouraging the cult crowd to get into com.

Now we have the boats from the others. They are pretty well relaxed, they are in comm with each other, they have a good idea what is expected of them, their cox's have a plan and have, at least, told their rowers what they will be doing.

The funny thing is that between the Freezone crews there is actually no contest. No one is trying to outdo the other, they are all there to enjoy the event.

The cult boat, however, has threatened dire consequences if they do not win. Their cox will not take any blame but will punish the rowers.

Sound familiar?

You left out:"the floggings will continue until morale improves".


Mark A. Baker

[Div6]

But, but, but.....they have such pretty NAVAL uniforms. :D

[Flag-2005]

Thanks for the insights on the sinking Scientology ship and the freezone but..

what of Knowlegism?

I'm full of questions on how and why..

Questions for Alan, students, others etc.

Here are my basics after listening the tape M&M.

acknowledge and appreciate your 'BTs'.

So treat them with ARC.

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Is it correct that a lot of our life, energy and gains are maintained and pushed along by our 'added on' spiritual thetans?
We would be less without them?

If we talked to and re-connected to them ( spiritual teammates) life would go great!
All striving towards right answers and so power.

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But is this not giving away your causative-ness of 'one individual' to be a power?
Or is the truth a 3rd Dynamic?

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OT III, a technology making BTs downcast or viewed like DBs and so this level in Scientology treats them as 'bad' with no ARC and target them for removal.

What is it Knowedgism suggests to process them on?

Forget Inc 1 and 2 but audit them on the basics of Scientology?

ARC processes towards truth and freedom and erase charge of their cases?

Get them to co-audit as they were trained while we were doing our own training - so they are indoc'ed already?

Deterioration of BTs was the downfall of the missions, the large groundswell and friendly-ness that was early in Scientology. Out of this we get the SO and a dominator who works to 'cave' others in so they loose self-determinism. Then still they go on worsening this by delivering and training others into dominating their "BTs" with OT Levels of OT III and above?

This is why Ron went down the tube, he skipped a whole 'games matrix tech' and own GPMs, then went onto attack his "BTs"


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So to make gains and process well on route to OT regarding spiritual entities, we do it by knowing the 'code' of our teammates.

Knowing where they are at and audit appropriately eg PTS, SP, high powered, well trained etc.
Is this a level in your zones?
( more reading to do )

Are you also saying that now after 13000 years, a lot of teams are going to reconnect. Through the acceptance of these technologies with spiritual literacy we will have the power and knowledge for a new large cycle in time?

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All of the above is my opinion of a mixture of tech so don't interpret my questions as being factual about any tech.

If I knew, I would not be asking the questions... but I am hopeful for some answers if anyone has a vp or knows something about it.

Thanks

[Feral]

You know I did nearly 4000 hrs on all OT levels combined. I say that makes me an expert!.

I have no clue what we were doing or if it needed to be done. I don't think Hubbard did either.

Why mess with BTs which are mostly on your BODY, which you discard every few decades, if you are going OTEEE for eternity? These entities have for the most part different time tracks, sort of proves they change with the bodies, doesn't it?

If you look at the outcomes of the poor sods who were on solo nots over the years you would be clearly suicidal to embark on that path!!

I cannot comment on the knowedgism part of your question, but I too am interested in finding out about it.

Wish you more luck than I had in sorting it out old mate!

[Flag-2005]

You know I did nearly 4000 hrs on all OT levels combined. I say that makes me an expert!.

I have no clue what we were doing or if it needed to be done. I don't think Hubbard did either.

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I cannot comment on the knowedgism part of your question, but I too am interested in finding out about it.

Wish you more luck than I had in sorting it out old mate!

Did you feel fully hatted and trained and ready for it at the start or was it all a hard slog?

What are your basic Scientology beliefs after that?

Was it completely without results and unreal or something else?

[Feral]

Good questions

I was a very competent solo auditor, in the end. It was not a slog.

In 15 years of solo nots I had wins, but the rundown DOES NOT do what they say it does, it is not a route to "freedom"

I believe a lot of the basic tech has truth in it, I still think with it. I do not know about the OT levels, though I had gain on them myself I see others did not. I suspect it is a false route. Then Solo nots, well look at the state of the poor sods who have done it! Write a list of all the people who you know on it or off it, how are they doing?

Did you feel fully hatted and trained and ready for it at the start or was it all a hard slog?

What are your basic Scientology beliefs after that?

Was it completely without results and unreal or something else?

[Flag-2005]

Good questions

I was a very competent solo auditor, in the end. It was not a slog.

In 15 years of solo nots I had wins, but the rundown DOES NOT do what they say it does, it is not a route to "freedom"

I believe a lot of the basic tech has truth in it, I still think with it. I do not know about the OT levels, though I had gain on them myself I see others did not. I suspect it is a false route. Then Solo nots, well look at the state of the poor sods who have done it! Write a list of all the people who you know on it or off it, how are they doing?

Thanks, good answers.

I did a blog post about a guy Rey Robles he has a story about an OT VIII that called him.


.. an OT 8 comes to him and says, “I don't feel too OT!”

Rey says, “Well that's because you have not done the OT Levels! How are you going to feel OT if you have not done the OT Levels?”

He then explains why, showing how the true OT Levels have been removed off the modern Bridge.

Cool video of all the Bridges side by side comparing the degrades which occurred. How real is this to you that is part of the reason why?

http://www.awaken-the-spirit.com/tec...grades-galore/

I was only in twice and each time brief. Never knew any OTs or people on the Levels personally. I hung around the young crowd, the dreamers

Actually Ill revise that. I knew a lot of OTs at FSO but I was usually fighting them...

Now I see your point


Hey I was just reading your other thread...

"In fact I was nearly taken twice by crocs in the North, the funniest time was when we were on an NT (Northern Territory) beach, near Darwin."

Me too, many times.. I was born and brought up in Darwin..