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    Default Gerry Armstrong Explains Racist Scientology Term Wog

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    Thanks for that FTS.

    For any non-Scns reading, "wog" is a kind of acronym - worthy oriental gentleman. If I have time I'll look into its history.

    England has had it's race issues, mostly from the 50s through the early 80s.
    Thankfully, things are much better these days. However, the term "wog" is highly taboo - and I'm not talking about political correctness here.

    Use of the term in England during the 60s/70s was mainly directed at West Indians who were invited over during a period of full-employment after WWII.
    Saying it to someone's face is asking to get the shit kicked out of you and I wouldn't have a whole lot of sympathy for someone who did.
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    Gerry's not looking so good these days. I'm sad to see that.

    Actually the term "wog" has a very precise definition: Someone who operates on the datum that if someone else loses then he wins - so in order to "win" he tried to make others lose.

    That's what a wog is. Racism has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    Gerry's not looking so good these days. I'm sad to see that.

    Actually the term "wog" has a very precise definition: Someone who operates on the datum that if someone else loses then he wins - so in order to "win" he tried to make others lose.

    That's what a wog is. Racism has nothing to do with it.
    WTF?!

    You can't take a term and just separate it from it's broad cultural usage.

    Even if you could, what does it say about an organisation obsessed with misunderstoods?!

    So, if I starting calling my friends TWATS (Totally Wonderful And Talented Spirits) I should be surprised if they aren't overjoyed?

    Hubbard should have read is own PR Series.

    I'd love to see a Scn going down Wembley High Street doing a survey. "Excuse me, Mr Black Gentleman, How do you feel about the term 'Wog' to describe a non-believer of the one true faith?". I don't think I'd have the balls to do it but I'd insist on an ambulance following me if I did.

    Not pissed at you Leon, just the stupidity of Hubbard and Scns (of which I was one).

    PS ESMBers - You're a bunch of TWATS!
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    In a recent photo, Gerry looks pretty good for someone who's going to be 62 in October:

    http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/ga/wp-...08-06-01-1.gif

    A glimpse at L. Ron Hubbard's SP Doctrine:

    http://forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?...0&postcount=41

    History of the word "Wog," a term that was used by Scientology's founder as the ultimate expression of racism - racism against the entire Human Race, the non-Scientologists, those who are too "aberrated" to recognize L. Ron Hubbard as "Mankind's Greatest Friend."

    http://forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?...70&postcount=4

    A little more Scientological elitism and institutionalized negativity:

    http://forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=57283&postcount=6

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    I think Gerry explains it beautifully.
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    The tech dictionary does not mention that. Def1.Worthy Oriental Gentleman. This means a common ordinary run of the mill humanoid. Def2; A wog is someone who is not even trying

    OK stop laughing now!! Back to your studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    Gerry's not looking so good these days. I'm sad to see that.

    Actually the term "wog" has a very precise definition: Someone who operates on the datum that if someone else loses then he wins - so in order to "win" he tried to make others lose.

    That's what a wog is. Racism has nothing to do with it.
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    Default The Wog world

    When I was in the Sea Org in the UK we often used the term Wog for non $cientologists and then 'wog world' for the outside world

    The kids in $cientology who went to normal schools in Eastgrinstead were calld names like 'Scinos', as I think we were also known by the locals there in town.
    $cientology seems to have a selfmade word for almost everything.
    Then all the damn frigging abbreviations, that's what I noticed.
    Seems to have got even worse since I left, as I often dont know the meaning of certain abbreviations.

    So WTF just write up your OW's, cos your just a damn SP, cut out the HE+R, confront the MEST universe and just 'make it go right'!!

    You're all just a buch of DB's anyway........lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post

    Actually the term "wog" has a very precise definition: Someone who operates on the datum that if someone else loses then he wins - so in order to "win" he tried to make others lose.

    That's what a wog is. Racism has nothing to do with it.
    Nonsense! You are just making that up, apparantly to lessen Hubbard's racism.

    In the fifties when he first started using the word to describe all non-scns, he knew exactly what it meant!

    It was as well-used derogatory term in the UK - originally from the days of the British Empire when people from the Indian continent were called "Wogs" - Worthy Oriental Gentleman - it was a degrading put-down.

    It was a term of differentiation between the slave and the master. It got extended to all people of a non-caucasian race.

    Hubbard coined the term deliberately to assert the superiority of the master-race (Scientologists) that he was creating over the mere non-scns.

    His use of the word was entirely clear to his devoted followers in those days. When I first heard him use it, I knew exactly what he was doing in his use of the word. I understand from some non-english exes (particularly American) that they didn't know the derivation of the word. This doesn't alter the fact that Hubbard who as a child had travelled to China and as a younger man developed Scn in the UK would know exactly what the term meant. And would understand the impact of the word as he spread his cult through the Commonwealth countries.

    Defending Hubbard's use of the word by pretending some other meaning is dancing on the head of a pin, Leon.

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    It may well be that lrh had deliberate racist overtones in his introduction of the term "WOG" to mean non-scientologist, however there is no evidence in anything that I read describing this term that implied he was being racist.

    W.O.G. stood for "Westernized Oriental Gentleman". Within the SCN world, it took on an ~ism of its own.

    In real-world Australia the term "wog" has been adopted by the Greek/Lebanese community as a badge of honor.
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