Pierre also mentors and C/Ses people re NOTs including personal friends. Outside of the auditor and C/S chair he can be a liability.One is Pierrot from Belgium, occasional poster here, who also
is in effect class VIII. Ken Urquhart told me he couldn't handle a difficult case without Pierrot's C/Sing. Then there is Mary and
Franklin Freeman. Frank Davis in the mid west.
Then there is Ron's orgs. I have no opinion re NOTs v Excal,
but they do lots!