MICHEL - CANCER AND SUICIDE ON SOLO NOTS

[Michel]

Hello! This thread is to answer Tommy Davis’s glibness.

I met Tommy during my second EPF in the Sea Org (actually a 2 months Boot Camp type of EPF), he was eating beans and rice every day, washing our clothes, doing the worst MEST work you can imagine, doing pumps up for hours...because he fucked up a "VIP" cycle.

At that time he wasn’t so proud to be a Sea Org Member, I can tell you.

Now, let’s talk about cancer and suicide on Solo Nots. Here are some data for you guys.

There is a tag status for each Solo Nots auditor:

Green tag: audit 4 to 6 sessions daily and comes on time for his 6 months check.

Grey tag: audit less than 4 sessions daily and doesn't come on time for his 6 month check.

Orange tag: Not allowed to solo audit because of out ethics situation.

Purple tag: Not allowed to audit because of illness or sickness.

Black tag: Disaffected with the church.

See the way it works? One starts the level with a Green tag then, depending on his "ability to be Cause over Life" one keeps his Green tag or, follow the dwindling spiral to Black tag.

There are about 5,300 Solo Nots Auditors worldwide and about(depending on their current status):

1,000 Green tags
1,100 Grey tags
900 Orange tags
800 Purple tags
1,500 Black tags

The 10,000 on Solo Nots is just a dream. There is only 1,000 of them auditing regularly.

I was Solo Nots D of P Europe and i personally met the following Solo Nots Auditors. They were all with advanced cancer:

• Roberto B. – Italy
• Antonella B. – Italy
• Beppe G. – Italy
• Sonia B. – Italy
• Pierluigi G. – Italy
• Bernard C. – Switzerland
• Jo R. - Switzerland
• Tasa D. – France
• Helene M. – France

There is more, but I do not remember their names.

Before I blew the Sea Org in November 2006,two of them died of committed suicide; Jo R. and Beppe G.

I don’t know if the other ones are still alive.

The majority of the 800 Purple tags and 1,500 Black tags are with cancer, HIV, diabetes and non optimum physical conditions.

The majority of the 900 Orange tags committed financial irregularities to be able to “pay for services and/or donations” to the Cult.

Rex Fowler is a typical Orange tag product of the Cult.

You all know the PTS/SP tech “theory”, right?

How many of them had to disconnect from their family and friends because they where the ”SP”?

Why, after an entire bridge people are still sick, ill, criminal, commit suicide, etc..?

Maybe they didn’t find the real SP yet..... or, if they did, they invalidated the read.

At one point every body on Solo Nots had to do or re do the PTS/SP Course GAT.

And the SNR C/S FSO Richard Reiss (pushed by RTC, of course) was constantly harrassing the Solo Nots C/S "because they didn't apply the PTS tech at 100%" during their C/Sing.

Well, a cancerous tumor is not detectable by a SN C/S as far as i know!

I can attest! Beppe G. had a cancerous tumor the size of an egg in his brain while at Flag to "Attest to OT7"! I went with him to the Clearwater Hospital. He was sent back to Italy right away by RTC....

Imagine the Flap if Beppe died in the middle of the Solo Nots HGC!

These data should be widely disseminated. It’ s not a joke. These guys are really in danger.

Michel.

PS: the medical associations should be aware of this data. Scientology technology doesn't cure cancer....when a cancer isn't detected on time, it's too late. Unfortunalely, from a Scientologist view point, a doctor is considered a charlatan.

[Panda Termint]

Thanks for posting this, Michel, it is VERY important data.

[Carmel]

Hey Michel, I've been reading the other thread where you've provided so much info - Good on you, man!

I didn't finish OT 5, and never got onto 7 (thank God) so have nothing to contribute. I have though, observed many of my mates who have taken the road you are talking about, and I do believe that, as ya say, they *are* in danger.

Tell us all ya know......The sort of info you are giving is invaluable, and appreciated, so keep it comin'.

Cheers,
Carmel

[Div6]

This is good information to have. Thanks Michel.

I think it would be appropriate to have Anons post "Bridge Out Ahead" road signs in front of the orgs.....

[Michel]

Originally Posted by Panda Termint

Thanks for posting this, Michel, it is VERY important data.

I agree Panda, this is veru important data. Hope that people will use it around them.

Michel

[RogerB]

Originally Posted by Panda Termint

Thanks for posting this, Michel, it is VERY important data.

Shit, I'll say so too! Very important info. Horrific, actually.

One point of data that sticks out to me is the number or prevalence of Italians with cancer . . . . this is what the medical researcher types would call "statistically significant."

No Americans on the list? It'd be interesting to know what the proportions of the whole that each national group makes up on S/NOTs.

According to the Am. Cancer Soc. cancer accounted for 23.1% of all deaths in the USA in 2006. So one should not be too up tight about the number indicated above for cancer cases on S/NOTs . . . the eleven cited out of the 5,300 on the level is nowhere near 23%.

Be interesting to get an accurate up to date actual number to then compare ratios.

In any event, this fact of cancer incidence certainly blows the claim to deliver "cause over life" with that tech line up to be a false claim

The least I'd expect from getting to the "top of the Bridge" would be the ability to correctly manage a body and keep it healthy!

RogerB

[Michel]

Originally Posted by Carmel

Hey Michel, I've been reading the other thread where you've provided so much info - Good on you, man!

I didn't finish OT 5, and never got onto 7 (thank God) so have nothing to contribute. I have though, observed many of my mates who have taken the road you are talking about, and I do believe that, as ya say, they *are* in danger.

Tell us all ya know......The sort of info you are giving is invaluable, and appreciated, so keep it comin'.

Cheers,
Carmel

Good for you mate! You left right on time and saved lot of money and time. Hope that this data will serve in Australia to shut the Cult down for good!

Michel.

[Michel]

Originally Posted by RogerB

Shit, I'll say so too! Very important info. Horrific, actually.

One point of data that sticks out to me is the number or prevalence of Italians with cancer . . . . this is what the medical researcher types would call "statistically significant."

No Americans on the list? It'd be interesting to know what the proportions of the whole that each national group makes up on S/NOTs.

According to the Am. Cancer Soc. cancer accounted for 23.1% of all deaths in the USA in 2006. So one should not be too up tight about the number indicated above for cancer cases on S/NOTs . . . the eleven cited out of the 5,300 on the level is nowhere near 23%.

Be interesting to get an accurate up to date actual number to then compare ratios.

In any event, this fact of cancer incidence certainly blows the claim to deliver "cause over life" with that tech line up to be a false claim

The least I'd expect from getting to the "top of the Bridge" would be the ability to correctly manage a body and keep it healthy!

RogerB

Thanks Roger. I was Solo Nots D of P Europe, that's why i am listing only the european guys i knew. Unfortunately, there were also US guys with cancer. For a real figure you could apply the 23% to the Purple tags and Black tags. The number of death should be pretty close.

As you said, at the top of the bridge one should be at least healthy...physically, economically and most of all spiritually.

I't's absolutly NOT the case.

Michel

[Michel]

Originally Posted by Div6

This is good information to have. Thanks Michel.

I think it would be appropriate to have Anons post "Bridge Out Ahead" road signs in front of the orgs.....

Yes Div6! It's a great idea! And how about a stat graph showing the Number of Scientologists with cancer.....in Full Affluence!

Michel.

[RogerB]

Originally Posted by Michel

Thanks Roger. I was Solo Nots D of P Europe, that's why i am listing only the european guys i knew. Unfortunately, there were also US guys with cancer. For a real figure you could apply the 23% to the Purple tags and Black tags. The number of death should be pretty close.

As you said, at the top of the bridge one should be at least healthy...physically, economically and most of all spiritually.

I't's absolutly NOT the case.

Michel

Thanks, Michel . . . . you give explicit further, critical info.

You might add then, what was the number of Europeans on S/NOTs you were DofP for. Then we'd have a very clear comparative number.

You may not know, but I was one of the very early S/NOTs people . . . like within a matter of weeks or a couple of months of it being released.

In all I did around 12 years on it . . . I continued it after the shit hit the fan in 1983 and eventually being declared SP. So you see I have a keen interest in your info here.

The other side of the coin though, is that I have life-long been diligent in caring for the body and being truly responsible for it (I'm and old champion athlete . . . that helps )

I wonder if you saw my postings (several) on the "How Dangerous is New OTVII S/NOTs" thread here: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthrea...493#post370493

Rog