EU and Hungary Sea Org stories, abuses etc.

[Thalkirst]

The following were either observed by me or observed by someone I trust.
These came up or were shared on my blog.

IAS:
Padova Org, mid What is Scientology? Exhibition. The IAS tours reges were called on the phone by their boss, ED IASA, Ken Pirak. I could clearly hear what he told to them from 10 yards away, as he was screaming so loud: "You f*cking lazy idiots!!!!" The he gave them a quota to make that day - 5000 USD more or else. It was 23:00 already. They drove to a local public and came back around 3:00 AM with the money in hand...

Walter Kotric, CO CLO EU stories:

1. a beggar went to him asking for money, when he walked on the main street on Copenhagen. He shouted at the beggar: "F*ck off! Get some work!"

2. an ex-RPF'er (he blew) went into AOSHEU, to the courtyard, somehow evading Security. He went into the Canteen to buy something, when Kotric stepped in. He recognized the guy and yelled "You f*cking SP!".
Then he ran to him, grabbed the guy and threw him to the counter. The guy fell on the floor, then stood up - when Kotric kicked him in the ass with such a force that the guy literally flew out of the canteen to the courtyard. Then Security removed him from the base.

3. He was fond of the Murder Routine - he is favorite question was "Did you f*ck a dog?"

4. he was there on a local event in Budapest. A public accidentally stepped on his shoes, he looked at the public and said: "F*ck you!"

5. a couple of OT's were watching a Star Wars movie in the Hotel Nordland canteen (projector etc.) at late night. CO CLO came back to CLO to secure and noticed them. He stormed into the room, stood in the front of the projector, so they could not see the movie anymore and asked the nearest guy, nearly yelling: "I'm the CO CLO EU. Who are you?"

Serious Reality Adjustment (SRA) "tech" used:
1. The FBO NEPI (the 1995 one) had a specific method. He called the execs of New Era to a room, then he called the victim in - who has failed to properly fill a cheque, for example. He was screaming for a while, then the final blow came - he pushed the table over violently! This has always produced the needed "result". The door was deliberately left open, to increase the shame factor.

"baby boomers"
I heard this term from a Hungarian ASHO staff members. He said it is female a Sea Org member, who routes out to have a child - so she "booms" her baby instead of booming orgs. Anyone else heard this term?

SO Stable Data:
The same guy told me the following maxim: The only thing that is sure in the Sea Org is the one that has happened three weeks ago and everyone forgot about it already.

[duddins]

Welcome to the board and thank you for posting this.

I am also Ex SO and I have seen similar behavior.

It is a good time to keep reminding everyone what we are up against.

The real face of Scientology is ever evident to Sea Org staff.

While people with money get all the smiles and PR, the SO slaves become accustomed to that kind of treatment.

And guess where a good percent of that $5000 went?

To staff Pay? No WAY!

[nowout]

Welcome to ESMB Thalkirst. Thanks for the stories.

Those stories about Walter Kotric were pretty horrible. He used to be at the Int Base before firing out on a Command Team with Zara, his wife to Russia and then ended up in EU. I knew him for a couple of years and he was never like that. I guess that power flipped and corrupted him.

[MarkWI]

Originally Posted by Thalkirst

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Walter Kotric, CO CLO EU stories:
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One sunny day I was going with him from New Era to AOSHEU, we passed by the Rosenborg Have park and referring to people taking the sun bath on the grass he said "That people are fucking out ethics!".

He disappointed me. I thought wogs were just unaware of the high goals of Scientology and the need to work restlessly 24/7 to clear the planet ... , that didn't made them out-ethics to me.

[Thalkirst]

Originally Posted by nowout

Welcome to ESMB Thalkirst. Thanks for the stories.

Those stories about Walter Kotric were pretty horrible. He used to be at the Int Base before firing out on a Command Team with Zara, his wife to Russia and then ended up in EU. I knew him for a couple of years and he was never like that. I guess that power flipped and corrupted him.

Well, he had a human side as well. Both him and Zara were sometimes very nice people. Sometimes.

I guess that's the real thing - the heartless bastard valence is just something that was "added" later, most definitely by DM & Co.

I witnesses how certain CMO, and especially IASA terminals treated him - no wonder he became like them...

[Mick Wenlock]

Originally Posted by Thalkirst

Well, he had a human side as well. Both him and Zara were sometimes very nice people. Sometimes.

I guess that's the real thing - the heartless bastard valence is just something that was "added" later, most definitely by DM & Co.

I witnesses how certain CMO, and especially IASA terminals treated him - no wonder he became like them...

Walter joined the SO in 1978, he was Munich Org public. He was a trainee chef at the 4 Seasons Hotel there - he was always afraid he would end up being posted in Estates because of that and always said he would route out rather than work in a galley.

In the Austrian Army he was a paratrooper.

He started off in Senior HCO, IIRC he went off to INT, to HU in 1982.

The different off the cuff comments do sound like him but my experience of him is that he was a genuinely nice guy, he was extremely funny but he did have a streak of the fanatic in him that's for sure.

He did stand by his friends - I was one of them.

[Thalkirst]

Originally Posted by Mick Wenlock

The different off the cuff comments do sound like him but my experience of him is that he was a genuinely nice guy, he was extremely funny but he did have a streak of the fanatic in him that's for sure.

He did stand by his friends - I was one of them.

Yes, he was well known in the Sea Org for defending his friends and going to the utmost in assisting them. That's true.

But he was also known to be ruthless to those staff whom he considered out-ethics. I witnessed a few of his outbursts and it was like an assault from a SWAT team on terrorists...