Staff conditions, and What happens to the old staff?

[Ladybird]

Just when you thought the cult couldn't go any lower, read this about NEW ERA SENIORS INTERNATIONAL.

NESI is a scientology associated front group offering "help" for senior scientologists on how to tap in to public assistance programs, avoid psychs, drop the body and even has personal shopping assistance for finding a new body, just to name a few of the wonderful services available. You have to read this to believe it!

Please note also that it is a tax-deductable organization that runs mainly on Federal money and is looking for "investors" to set up their own retirement facilities. Sounds to me that scientology has found a new way to squeeze a few more bucks out of the elderly by using them to get grants and tax deductions on the profit they make from taking the elderlies SSI and SS and medicare payments.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$

From Mary on ars:

Where All The Old Scientologists Go For Help When They hit Their Twilight Years

This really disgusted me for the mere fact that the public
scientologists had to step in and try to help because the failures of
Scientology left elderly members with little to no planning or
finances. That goes for Public members, staff members and Sea Org
members. Here's a bit of what they have done over the years and when
their purposes are. Note the 'new body shopping' consultant blurb.

Scientology lunacy at it's best:

New Era Seniors International (NESI)
Creating a New Reality of Aging
Carolyn Holt, E.D.
323.661.1903
1405 N. New Hampshire Ave. #207
Los Angeles, CA
90027
Two main kinds of activities:
1. helping individual seniors find solutions to particular
problems, through referrals to community resources, to
members of our barter group, and the like. There is a vast
array of community resources for seniors and we show you
how to tap into it.
2. setting up programs to help large numbers of seniors,
such as an assist-givers network by zip code, disseminating
information about legal rudiments for end-of-life issues,,
and eventually a complete retirement facility of our own.
--------------------------------------------------
(c) 1998 New Era Seniors Inc. ( means been around at least that long)

LIFE TRANSITION POSTING


NESI proudly welcomes its new "Life Transition" Consultant, Julie
Schwartz. Julie is very experienced in helping those who have decided
the time has come to move on. She helps them wrap up their cycles and
takes them shopping for a new body! There's nothing like being at
cause over one's future! Wonderful! Just wonderful!Welcome Julie.
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/clien...&categoryID=52...


Founder and Trustee NESI - Suesan Walker:
Suesan first conceived of the idea for NESI some years ago and it was
formed and registered as a public benefit, not-for-profit, tax-exempt
organization, originally under the name of "The Crepuscule" (meaning
the twilight or dusk). Although the name was loved by a few it was not
understood by the many and a survey resulted in the current very
popular name of New Era Seniors International (NESI), which has all
the same tax exempt qualifications.
As an owner and CEO, Suesan currently runs a consulting and grant-
writing business called
Et Cetera from her new home in Clearwater, Florida where she keeps a
guiding eye on NESI's progress, works with other local nonprofits and
serves on the B of Dir. for Clearwater Community Volunteers.
Prior to her move to Florida, Suesan has been the driving force for
obtaining grants for the Hollywood Education & Literacy Project Int.
in Hollywood and remains on their Board of Directors. Additionally she
is on the Advisory Board of the Boys and Girls Club of Hollywood and
continues to work with a number of nonprofits in California. Suesan is
also the Founder of the Glenn County Seniors Centers in North
California.
Of NESI, Suesan says, "Working with the Glenn County and as a Senior
Advocate, I ran into elder abuse both in and out of nursing homes as
well as seniors and their families trying to work through the maze of
government paperwork to get help with problems. After moving back to
Los Angeles I was approached numerous times to help with difficulties
that some of the senior members of our group were encountering and
decided that we really needed to tackle this area. I told a couple of
friends about the idea and they were right behind it and off we went.
NESI has stayed strong to the original vision and the expanded Board
of Directors is doing an incredible job of creating new programs and
expanding membership." [..]


]..] Founding members are welcomed to NESI and are listed here and all
future NESI NEWS newsletters will welcome our new members.
From the USA: Suesan Walker, Barry N Watson, Carolyn Holt, Peggy
Barnes, Sandra Baikie, Mark Kevitt, Joan Kevitt, Constance Silton Lynn
Peters Rebecca Weiss Sara Smith Marilyn Carvin Kenneth Barrett Hedy
Oliver Frances Jackson David Carlson Richard Coanda Laura Masters
Barbara Bourgeous Kathleen Gregg Sharron Goldwasser Elfreda Karle
Dorothy Livengood Eldon Kaufman Ron Suiter
Donnella Frost Sue Zenger David Hunter Pat Curtis David Curtis Cheryl
Schawalbe Marcia Powell Willard Michlin Clare Anahu Judith Townsend
Marti Marshal Virjinia Smedberg Shana Daum Rebecca Mate Marilyn Totten
Pam Kilpatrick Dick Dimmock Marie Dimmock Scott Campbell Karry
Campbell Pamela Blehert Dean Blehert Aileen Cronin Julie Schwartz
David Holt From New Zealand: Alison Axford Lynnaire Liversedge Vicky
Casement Mary Stevens
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/clien...&categoryID=52...


CARE FACILITY OPERATING
NESI members Scott and Karry Campbell are operating a three-person
care facility in Laguna Hills, Southern California. One of the persons
being well cared for there is Bud Suiter, the 90 year old father of
NESI member Ron Suiter. Under their excellent spiritual and
nutritional care at "Karry's Elder Care" Bud has made a wonderful
recovery back to health after being in a rather bad way.
The Board of Directors made a personal visit to this wonderful
facility and held a meeting to set the course for planning, obtaining,
opening and operating a much larger facility. Present at the meeting
were: NESI President, Barry Nelson Watson; Board Member and Executive
Director, Carolyn Holt; Board Member, Peggy Barnes; members, Ron
Suiter, Scott Campbell, Karry Campbell; and Bud Suiter.
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
The following new members are welcomed: From the USA: Robyn Robichaux
Blue Monroe Malcolm Anderson Mario Feninger Suzanne Van der Merwe
Polly Hertz Laura Malm Tom Lynch Lowell Alexander Merry Alexander

TRANSITIONING FROM ONE LIFE TO THE NEXT - AND YOU DOING IT AT CAUSE!
New Era Seniors is putting on a fascinating seminar for those of you
in the Los Angeles area.


We are going to try to arrange to get this to those of you in other
areas before too long.
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/clien...&categoryID=52...


NESI NEWS Newsletters


NESI NEWS #5 (Volume 1, Issue 5)
NEW ERA SENIORS INTERNATIONAL
THE UN-RETIREMENT PEOPLE


INTRODUCING NEW ERA SENIORS Executive Director
CAROLYN HOLT


Carolyn was born in Flint Michigan as the daughter of a minister. She
went to college in PA and spent a year in Newark NJ as an apprentice/
helper in a foster care home for little girls. She went to graduate
school in New York City and spent two years working in St. Luke's
Hospital. She also worked in Beth Israel Hospital, and the East
Midtown Services for Older People.
She met many people who'd somehow lived through the Holocaust with
concentration camp numbers on their arms.
Carolyn has a Master's degree in Social Work, (individual casework as
opposed to group work or community organization). She has 17 years
paid experience in hospitals, medical clinics and senior multipurpose
service centers, both in California and in New York - and several
years unpaid experience recently.
Carolyn learned of our organization - which was then called The
Crepuscule (meaning twilight or dusk) and later renamed New Era
Seniors International - NESI, in the late '90's and later joined us to
add her considerable and valuable experience and expertise.
Carolyn shares the groups concerns that older Church Members who have
committed their lives to the Church (whether on staff or not), who
have not set aside for their older years, will have to scrape
ignominiously along on just Social Security, and will see no physical
universe reward for all the good they have done.
She shares our concern that older Church Members without proper health-
care- powers-of-attorney will have a physical or emotional crisis and
get sucked into the mental health care system and be mistreated and
damaged by psychiatry.
Carolyn wants to help ensure that older members do not give in to
physical deterioration, keep upbeat looking for things to do, and do
what they can do.
She knows exercise, keeping involved with others and having fun are
important.
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
The following new members are welcomed: From the USA: Lorrie O'Brien
Andrea Costello Carlos Carias Roberta Perry Tania Skrabak Anita Warren
Lynn Campbell Claire Fromer From Australia: Barbara Dowling


HOMEOWNER AND RENTER ASSISTANCE CLAIMS


IT'S TIME TO FILE THE HOMEOWNER AND RENTER ASSISTANCE CLAIMS
The Franchise tax Board began accepting 2007 homeowner and renter
assistance claims July 1,
2007 and will continue accepting claims through June 30, 2008.
Homeowner's assistance is an annual payment from the state based on
part of the property taxes
assessed and paid on your home. Eligible homeowners may receive up to
139% of the property
taxes paid on the first $34,000 of the value of the home in 2006.
Renter's assistance is also an annual payment from the state on part
of the property taxes you
paid indirectly when you paid your rent.
The 2007 claims are based on your 2006 income. The maximum total
household income for
2006 calendar year is $42,770 and the maximum gross household income
for 2006 calendar
$77,762.
The maximum payment allowed for 2007 claim year is
$472.60 for homeowners and
$347.50 for renters.
Most checks are mailed within 15 weeks from the date the claim was
filed.
Eligibility: You must meet any one of these requirements.
62 years or older
Blind
Disabled
You can get a home owner claim form (FTB 9000H)at :
http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/07_forms...?refresh=79919
Renters claim form (FTB 9000R) at:
http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/07_forms...?refresh=79919
If you don't have access to a computer send us a stamped self-
addressed envelope to: NESI
1405 N. New Hampshire #207, Hollywood, CA 90027 and we'll mail you a
form. Just let us know


Write to: NESI NEWS Editor with news,
1405 N New Hampshire Ave. #207
Los Angeles, CA 90027, USA
Fax: 323-665-2152
Website: http://www.NewEraSeniors.org
(c) 2006
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/clien...&categoryID=52...


NEW ERA SENIORS INC
1405 N NEW HAMPSHIRE AVE APT 207
HOLLYWOOD, CA 90027-6033


Financial Snapshot
Revenue: $0
Assets: $0
Codes
EIN: 954691398
NTEE: E91 - NURSING FACILITIES
ERI NTEE: E99 - HEALTH CARE N.E.C.
Group Exemption Number: 0000
SubSection: 03 - Charitable Organizations
Affiliate: 3 - Independent - This code is used if the organization is
an independent organization or an independent auxiliary (i.e., not
affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of
organizations).
Classification: 1 - Corporation
Deductibility: 1 - Contributions are deductible.
Foundation: 15 - Organization which receives a substantial part of
its support from a governmental unit or the general public
Filing Requirement: 020 -
Activity Code(s): 000 -
000 -
000 -


Form 990's
Below are a list of IRS Form 990 Tax Returns for Exempt Organizations
relating to NEW ERA SENIORS INC. Please click a link to display the
PDF form. (Document size is indicated at right.)


Address
NEW ERA SENIORS INC
1405 N NEW HAMPSHIRE AVE APT 207
HOLLYWOOD, CA 90027-6033


FormName (EIN_YEAR_HEX) File Size
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No Documents found for NEW ERA SENIORS INC.
Documents may not have been scanned or organization not required to
file.


New Era Seniors International (NESI) the Un-Retirement People
EDEN LIVING FACILITIES FOR SENIORS


An initiative of New Era Seniors Inc (NESI)


When NESI was founded one of the primary purposes was to provide
graceful, affordable living for seniors. In order to make this dream
happen faster we are creating a for-profit arm for New Era Seniors
that will create these living facilitate.


In this manner we not only provide the facilities and services but
also create an opportunity for both large and small investors. NESI
would be a majority stock holder and funds would flow to NESI for
operation expenses and into a special trust for assistance with senior
living.


We are presently conducting feasibility studies and would appreciate
your taking the time to fill out and return the following survey. You
can email to me at suesan...@msn.com or mail to New Era Seniors, 1405
N. New Hampshire #207, Hollywood, CA 90027 [..]
( Read the survey, lol)
http://www.dwebsite.com/g5-bin/client.cgi?G5button=2870

[Dulloldfart]

Originally Posted by Ladybird

Just when you thought the cult couldn't go any lower, read this about NEW ERA SENIORS INTERNATIONAL.

NESI is a scientology associated front group offering "help" for senior scientologists on how to tap in to public assistance programs, avoid psychs, drop the body and even has personal shopping assistance for finding a new body, just to name a few of the wonderful services available. You have to read this to believe it!

Yes, it does look like some public churchies stepping in to look after their elderly after the CofS's well-known refusal to care for staff.

I would have thought this to be commendable on the part of the churchies concerned. Am I missing something?

Paul

[Ladybird]

In the Sea Org everyone "just knew" what EOC (end of cycle) meant. It was used as slang as in "I wish he'd EOC." or "He did an EOC".

It came from this PAB (Professional Auditor Bulletin):

P.A.B. No. 50
PROFESSIONAL AUDITOR'S BULLETIN


From L. RON HUBBARD
Via Hubbard Communications Office
163 Holland Park Avenue, London W.11


15 April 1955


REMEDY OF HAVINGNESS -- THE PROCESS


<...>


Mock-ups get unreal because the thetan is not-ising existence. He is
trying to destroy masses by saying that they do not exist, that they are
not real. He is so bent upon this system of destruction that he is making
everything unreal or black. One of the cures for this is End of Cycle
Processing run in the following fashion: One has the preclear mock himself
up dead (no matter how unreal this mock-up is), then have the mock-up
waste away to bone, and have the bones waste away to dust, and then have
the preclear shove the dust into himself or, alternately, throw it away.
One once more has the preclear mock himself up dead, have the mock-up
waste away to bone, have the bones waste away to dust, and then have the
preclear remedy his havingness with the dust. One continues this for two
or three hours with the preclear if one really wishes the case to make a
change.

Here are a few examples of the term in common use by scientologists:


From Roger Gonnet, an ex-scn executive in France:

And particularly not to mention the number of those who committed suicide,
those who tried and went then to psychiatry to get some help, those who
lived hellish ruined "lives" after the scam, those who were ordered to "EOC"
(that was notably and most probably the case for a guy named Remy Petit - an
OSA who EOC just before the appeal of another trial against scientology
secret services... you know, the whole lot of them oldies clams do anything
to hide the fact that scientology is a crime cult.

Ray Mithoff was Senior C/S INT:
http://www.skeptictank.org/gs/crimti...minalTimeTrack

Mithoff is said to have taken LSD 1000 times. He is said to maintain a secret list of deaths where the Scientologist was C/Sed to “end cycle”, meaning let the body die. This has been done in cases where the person was terminally ill.

EOC was also mentioned in the 1991 Time magazine article:

Scientology denies any tie to the Fishman scam, a claim strongly
disputed by both Fishman and his longtime psychiatrist, Uwe Geertz, a
prominent Florida hypnotist. Both men claim that when arrested,
Fishman was ordered by the church to kill Geertz and then do an "EOC,"
or end of cycle, which is church jargon for suicide.

Article #158564 (158657 is last):
From: x...@ix.netcom.com(STEVEN FISHMAN )
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Fishman > From the Mouth of Steve Fishman
Date: Tue Mar 12 22:16:17 1996


On September 10, 1988, I was ordered to do an End of Cycle (suicide),
by Ethics Officer of Miami Frank Thompson and Flag Banking Officer of
Miami Leona Littler Grimm. They received the orders uplines in a telex
from Carol Martiniano from OSA. Where the orders originated from
beyond that point is anyone's guess.

=============================================
And here's another article where Steve mentions this EOC thing:
==============================================


Article #165525 (165652 is last):
From: x...@ix.netcom.com(STEVEN FISHMAN )
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Steve Fishman: Real Live Institutional Case
Date: Tue Apr 2 13:22:43 1996

Previously, I had been ordered to do an "End of Cycle" or suicide by
Carol Martiniano of the Office of Special Affairs in September, 1988,
and the first I heard about my EOC order was from two terminals at the
Miami Org: Flag Banking Officer Leona Littler Grimm and Ethics Officer
Frank Thompson.


Leona told me: "Take a short term loss on your current lifetime in
order to get a long term gain on your immortality as a thetan." Frank
Thompson repeated it.


In January,1989, Jan Logan, the Senior Sea Org Recruiter at the Flag
Land Base promised me that if I carried out the EOC order, I would be
GUARANTEED a set of Class XII Sea Org parents in my next lifetime, who
would boost me up the bridge to Class XII "like a rocket."

==========================================
Now, this is from much earlier, from what I consider to be a reputable
source, Bob Penny, the late director of FACTnet:
==============================================


Article #29498 (29697 is last):
From: Bob Penny <bobpe...@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: FACTNet questionnaire Jan '95 INTRODUCTION
Date: Wed Jan 25 20:17:33 1995

A report from a recent defector implies Yvonne actively
resisted doing the EOC but was forced to do it. She reportedly
was having major problems with her husband, Heber Jentzsch,
and with L. Ron Hubbard. Since she was such a popular executive,
the EOC may have been politically driven to stop a doubt/PR/security
problem in the highest levels of the group.

=======================================
This is interesting. This is from even earlier, waaay back on
December 18th, 1994, from one of the very first editions of what
has long since become the ARS Acronym/Terminology FAQ:
========================================

Quote:
EOC - End of Cycle = suicide.



End of cycle processing is described in "Scandal of Scientology" by Paulette Cooper:

Quoted from The Scandal of Scientology by Paulette Cooper
From http://www.entheta.net/entheta/books/sos/sos-13.html

Then came the death lessons.

Miss Hoad told twenty-five of her pupils to "close your eyes.
Concentrate.
Now imagine you are dying. Imagine you are dead. Now you have turned to
dust and ashes. Now imagine you are putting the ashes back inside
yourself."
These "death lessons," as they came to be called, were given behind
locked
doors with a "Do Not Disturb" sign outside, and the children were told
"never think about these lessons after they are over," which suggested
to
many that she was warning the children not to tell their parents about
it.

But one nine-year-old pupil became so depressed after the lessons that
her mother had to take her to a doctor and she whispered the secret to
him. Another child, after ointment was rubbed on her chest for a cold
said "Mummy, I am going to die. I feel funny inside." That mother,
who had perhaps heard about Hubbard's attaching an E-meter into
plants to see if they could feel pain, said "Let Dr. Thompson inject
his cucumbers when he thinks they are in pain. But let him leave my
daughter alone."


The other parents were equally outraged, although Miss Hoad insisted
that
the lessons were the same as saying "The Lord's Prayer." The parents
disagreed.
Miss Hoad resigned after several parents pulled their children out of
the school
and even more were absent. The Scientologists dissociated themselves
from the
treatment saying that those methods were "outdated and dangerous" and
that the
current practice was to imagine "beautiful things." Dr. Thompson, who
had a
child in the school, said he would not remove the child. Rumors to the
effect
that death lessons were being given in other English schools persisted
for a
long time after the incident.

Margery Wakefield's Affidavit

*** AFFIDAVIT *** April 13, 1990

I, Margery Wakefield, attest that the following facts are true.

I became involved with the "Church" of Scientology in October of 1968. I was a freshman at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.

At this same time, while doing work for the Guardian's Office, I t in on a meeting in the Guardian's Office (now known as the O.S.A. - Office of Special Activities), and I heard two murders planned. One murder was of this man who had defected. He had been caught, and they said they had him in a motel room, and the next day they were going to take him out to sea and "deep six" him - tie weights to him and dump him overboard.

The second murder that I heard planned was of Paulette Cooper, who had written a book critical of Scientology, and they were planning to shoot her. To my knowledge this murder was not carried out, but at this meeting it was planned.

[Free to shine]

Thanks Ladybird!
That makes me want to be sick.
Sorry Paul, it just forwards the idea that if you are old or have some body problem that has not been handled ( ) then go get another.
It does not honour the life and body we have and the experiences gained from life events that can be passed on to other generations.

Nah, it's just "too old, too useless, go start again."

[Ladybird]

Originally Posted by Dulloldfart

Yes, it does look like some public churchies stepping in to look after their elderly after the CofS's well-known refusal to care for staff.

I would have thought this to be commendable on the part of the churchies concerned. Am I missing something?

Paul

What planet do you live on Dulloldfart? The church left the elders out to hang, and now some churchies are trying to make a buck by applying for federal grants, tax deductible "investments" and welfare.

Maybe you got out in time to make a living for yourself by telephoning Hubbard processes, but what about Mike Eves, Uwe Stuckenbock, Katie Botha, and the many, many other old timers being blamed and punished for getting old and useless?

I my very own self considered End of Cycle as the only logical answer to get back on the bridge after I was diagnosed with cancer.

I knew I could never get back on the bidge this lifetime, so why wait? Because of my loved ones. That is why I waited. Since I had nothing to lose, I looked at the forbidden Internet.

I am sorta OK now physically, but I will spend every moment between now and my dying breath trying to expose the truth about this cult and trying to stop them from hurting others the way they hurt me and people I care about.

[DartSmohen]

Originally Posted by Ladybird

What planet do you live on Dulloldfart? The church left the elders out to hang, and now some churchies are trying to make a buck by applying for federal grants, tax deductible "investments" and welfare.

Maybe you got out in time to make a living for yourself by telephoning Hubbard processes, but what about Mike Eves, Uwe Stuckenbock, Katie Botha, and the many, many other old timers being blamed and punished for getting old and useless?

I my very own self considered End of Cycle as the only logical answer to get back on the bridge after I was diagnosed with cancer.

I knew I could never get back on the bidge this lifetime, so why wait? Because of my loved ones. That is why I waited. Since I had nothing to lose, I looked at the forbidden Internet.

I am sorta OK now physically, but I will spend every moment between now and my dying breath trying to expose the truth about this cult and trying to stop them from hurting others the way they hurt me and people I care about.

Ladybird,

Whilst I understand what you are saying, I think you may have missed the point DOF was making.

Irrespective of the despicable way the cult treats it's elders, DOF was commenting on the fact that some of the cult public are stepping in to give some support to staff who have been routed out. It is a kind gesture by them and shames the cult for failing to look after their own.

I know for my own part, there are some who are ex'es, who are also elderly. I reach out to them to see what I can do to at least BE there for them if they so wish.

DS

[XGO]

Originally Posted by Free to shine

Thanks Ladybird!
That makes me want to be sick.
Sorry Paul, it just forwards the idea that if you are old or have some body problem that has not been handled ( ) then go get another.
It does not honour the life and body we have and the experiences gained from life events that can be passed on to other generations.

Nah, it's just "too old, too useless, go start again."

Wow, I had never heard of this (EOC/End of Cycle) when I was in.
You know, EOC assumes that when you leave your body, you will find another, come back and remember everything... and get back into Scientology. Just continue on like nothing ever happened.
Sorry, I just don't buy it, along with other things about Scientology and OTs. How many "thetans in small bodies" have come back after death to originate their past life identity, state their case level and training, and continue on with the "program." To my knowledge, nobody has ever done that.
Where is the evidence?

[Colleen K. Peltomaa]

Originally Posted by DartSmohen

Ladybird,

Whilst I understand what you are saying, I think you may have missed the point DOF was making.

Irrespective of the despicable way the cult treats it's elders, DOF was commenting on the fact that some of the cult public are stepping in to give some support to staff who have been routed out. It is a kind gesture by them and shames the cult for failing to look after their own.

I know for my own part, there are some who are ex'es, who are also elderly. I reach out to them to see what I can do to at least BE there for them if they so wish.

DS

Okay, if it's being done with the best of intentions. Some of those members might even be willing to adopt an older person and take them into their home, if they have a spare bedroom, without asking a dime from them. I would like to see that happen. Old people can still audit can't they? Where's the auditing come in on this website?

As for the body shopping, my now deceased friend, Nancy West, did that for my Dad who was not a Scientologist, but a very interesting being nonetheless. If you live in the Scientology matrix it does have its plus points. Too bad the leadership is screwed up and lying to its members.

[Ladybird]

DoF, I don't know what to say. Do you read anything LRH didn't write? Why don't you visit the Hacienda Gardens in Clearwater? Visit the old Sea Org members who are living in squalor with no one to care for them.

Imagine a federally funded nursing home where scientologists are cutting every corner to make a tax deductible profit so they can donate the money to IAS, CCHR, Narconon, Criminon, Super Power building and all the other front groups for CST/ Sea Org Reserves (aka DMs retirement fund).

Would you trust your mother to a scientology run nursing home?



Can you imagine a grandmother who is not allowed to see her grandchildren? Or a father who is not allowed to walk his beautiful daughter down the isle?

Not to mention the heartbreaking stories of disconnection that have been documented all over the boards.

What are you thinking DulloldFart?

[Voltaire's Child]

I know I'd not mind someone helping me with my end of cycle MAYBE, but if that was in lieu of helping me (as the elderly woman I hope one day to become) or there was any implication that any neglect of the elderly could ever be ok, then I would view it as nothing more than eugenics.