Anti Scientology cultist?

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  1. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Is it time to fire a mission to conduct a name survey?

    We can call it Mission Anti-Scientology Community Exact Rename And Define - MASCERAD

    Goal: To establish a name for the Anti-Scientology Community that properly defines what they stand for and negates the negative connotations of “Cult”.

    Word clear the definitions of “Anti-“, “Movement”, “Community”, “Cult” and related key words and their synonyms.

    Study HCOPLs and LRH advices on Positioning and Marketing.

    Survey anybody who remotely cares about the subject of Scientology.

    Submit a CSW to COB ASC via ASC Mission Ops for name approval.

    _____

    So here’s the thing - there is some kind of universal law (read: axiom) that anything initiated by Scientology will ultimately backfire on Scientology. Anyone who wants to portray Scientology in a positive light should desperately avoid any usage that calls attention to the word “cult” - period.
     
  2. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    "Anti" is in the eye of the beholder. Like Veda said, Hubbard and Miscavige would tell him he's Anti. A couple of months ago, I was walking up to work, and a poor scilon was standing on the street handing out Free Personality Test leaflets. His hand went out toward me with one, and as I was walking, I held up my palm at it and said "It's a cult" as I walked. Did I make him change his mind? Hell no, he's indoctrinated. But he knows a little more about public opinion.

    Another time, I was picketing at a Chanology raid, and we had a lot of different signs, and you could choose a different sign whenever you wanted to. At the time I was holding a sign that read: "It's a Cult", a beautiful and instantly identifiable warm and wonderful young Latina woman walked across the street and directly to me. Her first words were: I didn't know that! We talked for about an hour, me with my mask on and her with many new questions, and me offering lots of information. She had been duped on the street by the cult, and bought a book and pre-paid for a class that she was told would make her more assertive.

    After our long talk (she was now an hour late to start her first class), I told her the best thing might be to research all that we've talked about, and now ask for your money back until you'd looked further into this and decided what this really was. She agreed, and asked me to go inside the Org with her. I told her that they would not allow me. I reassured her that she CAN do this, and I'll be here waiting for you outside. They worked her over pretty good, and took their time. When she finally came out, she told me that they refused to give her the money back, but could "repay" her with another book. This adroable person came to be known as Refund Girl by the other protesters, and they told me that this was the single most epic event we'd ever had while picketing. I felt good, Refund Girl was empowered and felt good, and she got a free lesson on how to be assertive IRL.

    Summary: Leaflet Scilon probably saw me as Anti. Refund Girl probably saw me as the coolest person in a mask ever. What we did was a public service. It's the duty of humanity to expose and stop the cult.

    Related story: One member of this forum was working (staff) at that same Org, and when we were picketing outside, with our dance music playing on the boombox, one anon said to them as they stepped outside "We just want to help you!". That was a big turning point for that staff person, and they left the cult ultimately and now is a member of this forum.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
  3. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    Well, I am. You said:

    That's pretty much worrying about how Co$ might portray you in front of others. Ultimately, I'd reckon, this is a PR issue to you.

    True. The term anti-Scientology has a higher likelihood of turning away fence-sitters. So, you haven't said anything about my suggestions. What about Scientology Watchdog Movement (SWM)?
     
  4. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    You say that as if "anti" is a bad word. It's not.
     
  5. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    How can anyone have been a member of this forum for 8 years and have less than 200 posts? Anyway ...

    Anti isn't a bad word per se, but that's the cult's word for a very broad range of people. Whistle-blowers, those who were in and wised-up, critics, journalists, former top-ranking culties and now exes, and on and on. The word 'Anti' undoes our diversity. So, rejected. Is that okay with you?
     
  6. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    You're right *cough*cough* OSA *cough* that's *cough* OSAOSAOSA *cough* strange
     
  7. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    Now that you mention it, you could be a sock account. Thank you for bringing that up. You have zero credibility. Start there.
     
  8. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

  9. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

  10. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

    yup but have been pretty inactive lately. other things in life and stuff :)
     
  11. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    I was a member at a couple of the old local forums in Germany, back in the day. We probably know some of the same oldfag anons in Germany.
     
  12. Victoria

    Victoria Patron Meritorious

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    Its pronounced ASK.

    We are the horrible askers of questions. That is SO not allowed. It must be stopped.
     
  13. Victoria

    Victoria Patron Meritorious

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    Straight White Male?
     
  14. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

    For sure. I was only active on Enturbulation and WWP though.

    Dammit! I hope you don't think I'm a feminist now :/
     
  15. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    I was at Enturb, and very active on WWP. I was asked to Mod there too.
     
  16. an0n

    an0n Patron

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    I agree wholeheartedly. Describing Scientology as a religion is the primary propaganda agenda for the organization. That has succeeded, both legally and in the public media discourse. I tend to agree with Tony Ortega that describing Scientology as a cult is problematic, because clearly defining what a cult is and does isn't clear. Organization is the term I find most useful, and the words criminal, abusive, intrusive, can all be neatly applied prior to.

    Yes, centering the term Scientology around the other terms used to describe the subject is another major objective. Anti-Scientology attempts to do exactly that, which is why it's worth examining and refuting.

    Under Hubbards mandatory tunneled mindset, the fellas over at OSA score this entire thread as a win because their terms are being repeated continually. What they fail to take into account is the critical thinking and refuting of their terms as a loss. I score that as a win for all us Pro Truth Individuals. A Scientologist duplicates by compliance. An individual originates by thinking for themselves.
     
  17. Lurkness

    Lurkness New Member

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth


    Well said.

    Decided to stop lurking and finally pipe up here.
     
  18. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    I said it's not a PR issue with me. That doesn't mean I wish to be molded like so much Play Doh

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    by Miscavige and his pals.


    There you go with worrying again.

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    This is a people issue. The people of concern are primarily those vulnerable to Scientology, people in Scientology and, secondarily, their non Scientology loved ones who are either trying to coax them away from becoming involved with Scientology, or extricate them from inside Scientology.

    We've come this far with no (handy three word, three initial) official titles. Apparently, there's no need for such a thing.

    :hattip:
     
  19. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth



    :goodposting:
     
  20. Ackerland

    Ackerland Patron with Honors

    Re: The Anti-Scientology Cult vs. Truth

    Well then. To each his own, I guess :hattip:
     

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