Belgium prosecuting Scientology

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  1. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

    elgium is going to prosecute Scientology:

    Dutch: http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/politiek_economie_belgie/Belgie_vervolgt_scientology.9284893-3136.art

    Google translate:

    If I have the time, I will do more later.
     
  2. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    ...and a happy New Year.
     
  3. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    I love google translate :D

    But the message is still clear .. extortion, illegal medicine, nobody from scientology would respond. Perhaps they'll say we don't do those things any more, and it was just a few bad apples that have now been expelled...

    :eyeroll:
     
  4. Purple Rain

    Purple Rain Crusader

    Hip hip...!

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  6. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    Translation of a French article published in the December 28, 2012 edition of the Belgian daily newspaper L'Écho:
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  7. I hope the Belgians don't waffle on this.

    The Anabaptist Jacques
     
  8. Mimsey Borogrove

    Mimsey Borogrove Crusader

    I didn't know they moved out of Brussels - I thought they had a big international org - so they could hold sway with the international execs / presidents/ state officials etc. - oh! My bad - I believed what Der Miscavage said in a event. Foof. Mimsey
     
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  10. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Hi,

    You've reached the desk of Karin Pouw. I'm not here right now, but if you'll leave a message and time of call ...
     
  11. NoName

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    I don't suppose The Hole is wired for a land line?
     
  12. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

    Below an improved version of the google translate.

    The federal prosecutor is ready with its case against the 'Church of Scientology of Belgium after years of research. It prosecutes the famous movement, with known actor Tom Cruise as a figurehead, as "criminal organization".

    The Church of Scientology of Belgium and two senior executives are also prosecuted for fraud, illegal medicine, various breaches of privacy and extortion. That was what De Tijd learned.

    A previous criminal investigation against scientology dragged on for years and years and is still at the Brussels court. This investigation began in 1997, but the file was about older facts. This is in contrast to the new file that the federal prosecutor now pull at the Brussels court. The subpoenas are only just sent to Scientology.

    The Scientology Church of Belgium foundation, which three years ago moved from Brussels to Mechelen, exists since 1974. The Belgian department is very active - with all kinds of courses for companies, exhibitions, marathons, etc. - and gets the assistance of the European headquarters in Brussels.

    Employment contracts

    The judicial investigation focuses on the internal practices of the Belgian branch of Scientology. The inducement was a complaint from the Brussels Regional Employment on dubious contracts that Scientology issued. The case ended up at the Brussels investigating judge Michel Claise, who had carried out raids in April 2008.

    Investigators are said to have found a lot more incriminating evidence. Besides the disguise of employment contracts to recruit volunteers and members, the court believes that there is extortion of members, the illegal use of pseudo-medicine and keeping records on all persons.

    While Scientology in several countries, including the United States, is recognized as a religion, the Belgian courts are targeting for a strict condemnation. Probably this will provide even more impact than the conviction in 2009 of Scientology in Paris, where a fine was imposed, but no ban.

    The federal prosecutor refused to comment on the case file at Thursday. Also at the Church of Scientology of Belgium nobody was willing to respond.
     
  13. JustMe

    JustMe Patron Meritorious

    It would be wonderful if they finally take effective actions. Justice can be slow in many places, it certainly is in the USA, and my goodness but it is very slow in Belgium. BUT it looks like we may get some real action at last.

    About 3 1/2 years ago I had a long brunch with four top Belgium prosecutors. And then spoke with two of them more later.

    This was at an event that Ursula's department sponsored in Germany. We spoke at length about many things including religious cloaking, employment fraud, staff member abuse, financal fraud and money laundering, corporate shell games and how the Belgium scientology operations were really run from the USA by Miscavige and those under him.

    I also explained to them that no matter how many locals they prosecuted in Belgium, the same stuff would happen again and again until those who really run it from abroad could be held liable.

    I answered many of their questions and left with the hope that they may do something to stop organized scientology's fraud and abuse.

    These may not even be the same people but it is good to once again have the hope that something is about to be done.
     
  14. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

    Dutch radio station Business News Radio:

    http://www.bnr.nl/incoming/689654-1212/belgi-vervolgt-scientology-onzin-zegt-scientology
     
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  16. secretiveoldfag

    secretiveoldfag Silver Meritorious Patron

    This is definitive progress and a great way to end 2012. :bravo:
     
  17. AnonyMary

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  18. mnql1

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  19. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Banned

    The Feds are running for cover, stealing as much as they can before their charade of 'representative government' collapses along with the US Dollar, - the only hope of motivating them to act at this time, IMO, is greed... Perhaps using the The Federal Forfeture act.. seizing the whole ball of wax and selling it off...

    "Types of Federal Forfeiture

    Criminal forfeiture is an action brought as a part of the criminal prosecution of a defendant. It is an in personam (against the person) action and requires that the government indict (charge) the property used or derived from the crime along with the defendant. If the jury finds the property forfeitable, the court issues an order of forfeiture.

    For forfeitures pursuant to the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO), as well as money laundering and obscenity statutes, there is an ancillary hearing for third parties to assert their interest in the property. Once the interests of third parties are addressed, the court issues a final forfeiture order."


    How about Major Fraud Statute (If Scn gets any Federal monies for its various scams)

    "(1) In special circumstances and in his or her sole discretion, the Attorney General is authorized to make payments from funds appropriated to the Department of Justice to persons who furnish information relating to a possible prosecution under this section. The amount of such payment shall not exceed $250,000. Upon application by the Attorney General, the court may order that the Department shall be reimbursed for a payment from a criminal fine imposed under this section. "
     
  20. Free Being Me

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