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Discussion in 'MartyWorld' started by AnonKat, Dec 14, 2012.
Yeah Yeah,I am Marty's whore and such, get over it.
To answer the question "does it get any darker than this?"
While this kind of stuff from the "church" is absolutely disgusting, I believe that Marty should be grateful that Hubbard is no longer with us or the consequences against him speaking out against the CoS would be much harsher.
I truly do feel appreciation and gratitude towards Marty for publicly exposing the dark side of the CoS but don't appreciate that he's trying to show Miscavige to be the cause of this sick stuff. He knows too much to know that that's utter bullshit.
First of all this is hilarious.
I think if you are on the fence of leaving and you read this you would think that the cult is crazy.
Secondly you would think that the cult is taking private things from his auditing session to find this out.
Then you would think how is it that the SEEORGGG the most “In TECH” people on the planet could be such a bad administrator of the Science Of Survival tech that they could not only sift out such a lunatic early but this lunatic could end up being the number 2 in charge of the most highly evolved group ever in existence for 20 years.
Maybe the tech does not work so well?
I know culties wouldn’t think this and would make all sorts of justifications.
Who is supposed to be reading this? Culties are not allowed on the internet. I don’t know if they are allowed to read anything that is non Scientology.
Where is this printed in the first place?
"Her child was born premature, never grew to a normal size and suffers from speech impairment even now.”
I thought I read somewhere that Marty was quite the basketball player.
As for speech impairment, given my knowledge and experience with Scientology "technology" the remark about impairment baffles me because if his speech was truly impaired I can not picture him given the responsibility of auditing the likes of Tom Cruise.
If that diatribe on Marty is somethign the Church actually put out it belongs on the stupid thread.
And if the people in the Church fall for the story they belong in a stupid thread of their own.
What happened to his mother can hardly be blamed on Marty. Foetuses are generally without much physical competence. And when I saw that Mrs R had been institutionalised and made to submit to ECT for being "rebellious, promiscuous and pregnant", my heart went out to the poor woman. Which of us hasn't been at least two out of those three at one time or another.
They forgot to mention that it was hubbard who actually delivered the ECT.
(No, I don't have dox for this. lol)
That's not talking about Marty, that's talking about a documented case study of someone else...implying that Marty suffered similar trauma. The research was done in 2007, well after Marty's birth so there'd be zero way to tie his impediments (if he has any) with his birth and the ECT, etc.
The long version is at Freedom org.
I believe it does.
Pope "Emperor Palpatine" Benedict XVI blessed one of the prime backers of Uganda's so-called kill the gays bill, currently before their parliament as a "Christmas gift to the Ugandan People." He gave his MF blessing to someone who wants to see LGBT people executed.
Heavy Metal and Satanism?
That black PR is despicable. Just downright despicable.
The church is DESPERATE!!
The Church is also very, very stupid!
In the hopes that Marty will read this:
After Snow White, the GO was intent on finding cases of PDH (Pain Drug Hypnosis) and electric shock treatments of spies and a great deal of auditing/sec checks surrounded this issue. The Scn organisation was paranoid that individuals had been sent to the SO by the government with subconscious programming to spy from within. So the GO ordered all kinds of sec checks on this subject. Even public were given specialised auditing and sec checks - the paranoia spread throughout the entire scn community.
The majority of statements by public and staff regarding electroshock treatments, PDH, etc. were completely fabricated and false.
Certain Class VIIIs spent a great deal of time trying to clean up these gross mistakes on cases for years afterwards. Thanks, GO! And thanks again for your paranoid delusions, Hubbard!
Marty received a great deal of auditing/sec checking from the GO after the Coletta murder/suicide disaster. He was very green and truly traumatised by the events, and in that state, may have come up with some sort of fabricated story like this to try to answer the questions and achieve an F/N.
It is highly unlikely that any portion of this is true, beyond, perhaps, a 3-day mandatory commitment at a hospital if his mother had attempted suicide. Hopefully at some point Marty spoke to one of his parents and sorted this out.
I'm really sorry to see this done to Marty or anyone and hope he realises and publishes the truth - that it was taken entirely from one of his sessions, that it was his imagination and tha he made it up to try to answer a stupid interrogation from the GO and get an F/N.
Like so many other fabricated shock treatment and PDH false "memories" that scn addressed.
Really sorry to see this done to him. To anyone.
Bcak in 2007, Chuck Beatty, myself and a few others embarked on trying to find Marty. One of the things we found out was who is parents were. His grandfather was a famous commercial artistwho created the Quaker Oats Man and Coca Cola Santa artwork. This was his mother's father. Her name was Patricia "Patti" Sundblom. Her father was Haddon H Sundblom. Here is an example of his art work:
Anyway, during this foray into finding Marty, we found lots of information. You can read one of the threads from ARS here. (I'm the poster named Out_Of_The_Dark)
Marty Rathbun's relatives confirm the right Marty Rathbun info !!!! MARTY RATHBUN, verified INFO
Finding Marty (Mark C.) Rathbun. Some clues....
So it's no surprise that OSA began several years ago attacking Marty's mother, her suicide and such.
They are despicable.
Well I've Met Marty. He's charismatic and very smart.
Quite compos mentis.
I have much agreement with his viewpoint and many here have less agreement
Our discussions, along with Ax were quite wide ranging and he made his points with clarity.
Any suggestion that he's "brain damaged" or whatever is suggested is the hallucinagenic vision of a sociapath. You know who I refer to.
Yeah, and the Santa with a Coke. Iconic.
Dio was God!
dio n any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force
He's short. He was like something out of Lord of the Rings.
What, like you?