I was searching for something else regarding Joe Lisa.. because he had called in to a radio show way back when maybe in 1995, and stated who he was - Joe Lisa and that He had been hired by Mary Sue (stress on Mary Sue as opposed to Hubbard)...to investigate the death of Quentin Hubbard. Notes on that are webbed on Lermanet.com HERE scroll down These are Joe Lisa's comments on Youtube LINK regarding Bruce McGregor Davis surrenders & arrest 12/02/1970 cuntrytrashcuntrytrash • 3,065 views [video=youtube;ffyB3ikFPMI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffyB3ikFPMI&feature=plcp[/video] Joe Lisa: "You know Bruce Davis? You should feel lucky that you didn't end up dead in some downtown alley with 50 + knife wounds. I don't suppose he told you what he did with the bodys of Cindy Mellin, Robin Graham or Donna Lass, did he? Is there any way you could post that letter you reference or email ..." Joe Lisa: "Bruce Davis expalins how Shorty was Killed and his non- involvement (Charles Manson Family)" Joe Lisa: "It wasnt his mother or his sister or Manson who told him to surrender. It was Mary Sue Hubbard and Jane Kember - the GO - who ordered him to turn himself in. They knew the investigation would eventually reveal that Scientology was connected to the Zodiac killings, so when he went back to London after he killed Gaul and Sharp, Mary Sue & Jane told him to surrender. Anybody who tries to downplay Scientology's involvement in Manson & Zodiac killings is part of misinformation campaign." More on Manson and Scientology HERE The data that Scientology was involved in the ZODIAC killings and that Manson clan member Bruce McGregor David was ALSO a scientologist is news to me. door to Manson's Spahn Ranch house "nothingness"