First Independent Church of Scientology

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    http://www.tmfile.com/mark/?q=868178378

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    Trademark FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

    This trademark (serial no. 86817837, mark text "FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY") was filed with USPTO on 2015-11-12 and has a current status of "new application - record initialized not assigned to examiner". Use the following table to research its status, prosecution history events, classification of goods & services, and current owner etc.

    Basic Information

    Actual Characters of Mark Text FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
    Mark Physical Characteristics Standard character mark
    Trademark Current Status New application - record initialized not assigned to examiner
    Trademark Current Status Date 2015-11-17
    Registration Number 0
    Registration Date
    Serial Number 86817837
    Trademark Application Filing Date 2015-11-12

    Illustration of trademark FIRST INDEPENDENT CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

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    Mark Classification

    Primary Classification Code 045 Mark First Use Anywhere: N/A
    Mark First Use in Commerce: N/A
    Class Status: Active
    Class Status Date: 2015-11-17
    International Class: Personal and social rendered by others to meet the needs of individuals (e.g., social events services, funeral services, matrimonial agencies, etc.) / Security services for the protection of property and individuals (45);
    Prior U.S. Class: 1. Miscellaneous (100); 2. Advertising and Business (101);
    Classification Statement: Spiritual ministry services

    Mark Owner Information

    Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
    Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
    Legal Entity Type: Individual
    Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203

    Correspondent

    Correspondent: RAYMOND R. TABANDEH
    CHRISTIE, PARKER & HALE, LLP, P.O. BOX 29001, GLENDALE, CA 91209-9001
    Attorney Name Raymond R. Tabandeh
    Attorney No. 79176/F558

    Prosecution History Events

    Event Date Event Description
    2015-11-17 NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED IN TRAM

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    HT - WWP: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/independent-scientology-coalition-for-standard-tech-interrogatory-on-glenn-samuels.131033/#post-2571707

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    US Patent Office File:

    http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:tdlexw.3.1

    http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=86817837&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
     
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  2. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology


    Build it and they will come.




    . . . or not.

     
  3. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    So, they applied, is that it?

    If that works, they should go big and apply for: Best Shoes by Nike, and get that one too.
     
  4. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    Now that they have become a legal corporate entity, they can sue people for using their tech and call themselves a religion, hire lawyers to prevent others from using their tech and can kick people out for not following their doctrine, just like dad.
     
  5. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    I'm probably being pedantic, but it is not a "corporate entity" -- at least not yet. Notice from the OP:

    Mark Owner Information

    Owning Party Type: Original Applicant
    Owner Name: JAMES R. FONDA
    Legal Entity Type: Individual
    Address: 655 N. Central Avenue, 17th Floor, Glendale, CA 91203
     
  6. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    I'm going to reply to my own comment to note that Jim Fonda wrote a post on Mike Rinder's blog dated November 4, 2013:

    Jim Fonda: Non Corporate Brand Real Scientology Is Available

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/jim-fonda-non-corporate-brand-real-scientology-is-available/
     
  7. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    Actually I was just being cynical. Having only a trademark they can't sue for tech use or violation.

    I assume it is to make some statement that it is legitimate or genuine Scientology but I have no use for any kind of Scientology so I projected a perceived path which may never occur but these things always have a beginning.

     
  8. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    I think your projection is accurate. As noted in other threads, the Religious Liberty League (RLL), an independent Scientology organization (albeit not a "church" as such) has been granted 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status in the US. Now there is a trademark application for the "First Independent Church of Scientology." It appears some Indies are following the advice of the RLL to practice independent Scientology as a "religion," and also to try to get that status formally recognized.
     
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  9. Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    He must have seen the Hubbard statement about making Scientology your own.

    The Anabaptist Jacques
     
  10. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    I hear there is money to be acquired in them there faux-:yes:religions....

     
  11. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    It's about time ESMB became a religion.

    We could have online Sunday services where we thank God we're out of Scientology.:yes:
     
  12. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  13. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Domain Registered for First Independent Church of Scientology: FICOFS.INFO

    Domain Registered for First Independent Church of Scientology: FICOFS.INFO

    http://whois.domaintools.com/ficofs.info

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    Whois Record for Ficofs.info

    Email is associated with ~3 domains
    is associated with ~1,827,438 domains
    is associated with ~94,548 domains

    Registrant Org First Independent Church of Scientology is associated with ~2 other domains
    Dates Created on 2016-01-14 - Expires on 2017-01-14
    IP Address 74.208.108.90 - 39 other sites hosted on this server
    IP Location United States - Missouri - Kansas City - 1&1 Internet Inc.
    ASN United States AS8560 ONEANDONE-AS 1&1 Internet AG (registered Nov 26, 1997)
    Domain Status Registered And Active Website
    Whois History 1 record has been archived since 2016-01-16
    IP History 1 change on 2 unique IP addresses over 0 years
    Hosting History 1 change on 2 unique name servers over 0 year
    Whois Server whois.afilias.net
    Website
    Website Title None given.
    Response Code 200
    SEO Score 0%

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    Whois Record ( last updated on 2016-01-21 )

    Domain Name: FICOFS.INFO
    Domain ID: D503300000000707872-LRMS
    WHOIS Server:
    Referral URL: http://registrar.1and1.info
    Updated Date:
    Creation Date: 2016-01-14T23:35:38Z
    Registry Expiry Date: 2017-01-14T23:35:38Z
    Sponsoring Registrar: 1&1 Internet AG
    Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 83
    Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
    Registrant ID: 1ejkavoppf4
    Registrant Name: James Fonda
    Registrant Organization: First Independent Church of Scientology
    Registrant Street: 655 N Central Ave
    Registrant Street: FL 1700
    Registrant City: Glendale
    Registrant State/Province: CA
    Registrant Postal Code: 91203
    Registrant Country: US
    Registrant Phone: +1.4082507027
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax:
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email:
    Admin ID: 1ejkbhcievj
    Admin Name: James Fonda
    Admin Organization: First Independent Church of Scientology
    Admin Street: 655 N Central Ave
    Admin Street: FL 1700
    Admin City: Glendale
    Admin State/Province: CA
    Admin Postal Code: 91203
    Admin Country: US
    Admin Phone: +1.4082507027
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax:
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email:
    Tech ID: C3594293-LRMS
    Tech Name: Hostmaster ONEANDONE
    Tech Organization: 1&1 Internet Inc.
    Tech Street: 701 Lee Rd.
    Tech Street: Suite 300
    Tech City: Chesterbrook
    Tech State/Province: PA
    Tech Postal Code: 19087
    Tech Country: US
    Tech Phone: +1.8774612631
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: +1.6105601501
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email:
    Billing ID: SPAG-41783875
    Billing Name: Hostmaster EINSUNDEINS
    Billing Organization: 1&1 Internet AG
    Billing Street: Ernst-Frey-Str. 10
    Billing City: Karlsruhe
    Billing State/Province:
    Billing Postal Code: 76135
    Billing Country: DE
    Billing Phone: +49.721913747660
    Billing Phone Ext:
    Billing Fax: +49.72191374246
    Billing Fax Ext:
    Billing Email:
    Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.COM
    Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.US
    Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.DE
    Name Server: NS-US.1AND1-DNS.ORG
    DNSSEC: unsigned

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  14. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    I am kinda ok with that......as long as I don't get sent to Ethics like I did on the freewinds for being 11 seconds late for service/class. On second thought, maybe it would be okay and then I could get to chat again with Lisa Marie while we wait outside the EO office.
    :omg: that was on hindsight so funny, I didn't even recognize her at the time Lol.:dieslaughing:

    PS what time Zone does service start?


     
  15. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Trademark Application: First Independent Church of Scientology

    Ah, that's a question for our Supreme Being - Emma.
     
  16. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  17. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Religious Liberty League on the First Independent Church of Scientology

    Religious Liberty League on the First Independent Church of Scientology.

    The Religious Liberty League, an Independent Scientology organization, has an article on the First Independent Church of Scientology. As emphasized below, the article provides new information.

    Religious Liberty League: The First Independent Church of Scientology

    http://religiouslibertyleague.org/the-first-independent-church-of-scientology/

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    On November 12, 2015, an application for trademark for the name First Independent Church of Scientology was filed in the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

    On or about the same date, the name was reserved by the California Secretary of State for use within sixty (60) days as a nonprofit religious corporation, and when the 60-day period expired, the name was reserved for a second 60-day period.

    Both filings were initiated by former church member, long-time Scientologist, Jim Fonda.

    In our article posted on October 25, 2015, entitled Breaking the Monopoly, we indicated that Religious Liberty League was involved in activities to break the church’s – or, more accurately, David Miscavige’s – monopoly over Scientology. The initial step in our program is to break the church’s trademark for the word Scientology.

    We consider it a fundamental right that all persons who desire to practice the religion of Scientology are free to do so – and call it Scientology! A fundamental right is inalienable. It is not granted to one by the state or by an institution or by any mortal person. And therefore, it cannot be abridged by any agency less than God.

    That Miscavige thinks he can, by arbitrary dictate and onerous conditions, control who can and who cannot practice the religion of Scientology, demonstrates a tyrannical disregard for basic human rights. Miscavige might very well expect the courts to uphold what the government itself is prohibited from doing under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. If so, we are prepared to prove him wrong.

    Obviously, we will not publicly reveal the complete plans and strategies. We will report, however, that we expect the articles of incorporation for the First Independent Church of Scientology (FICofS) to be filed in February 2016. A period of establishment will follow, including surveys, recruitment, and so on. FICofS intends to reach out to the field, grant a general amnesty, restore certification, and license groups and field auditors, thereby giving them religious cloaking and legal protection for their activities, which have lately come under threat through cease and desist letters sent to field practitioners by church attorneys.

    Imagine if everyone delivering standard technology outside the church were free to do so without inhibition or fear of legal consequences.

    Moreover, FICofS is intended to become a central organization, and a foothold, for the technology of Scientology and the Bridge[1] as developed by LRH – not the altered, unpopular Miscavige version – in order to ensure that it is available for this and future generations. It will be administered with a lightness of organization, and be inclusive and tolerant, rather than status-oriented and controlling. The new church will adopt the 1968 Reform Code of Scientology, and thereby recognize the distinction between fair criticism and religious persecution, accepting and internally handling the former, and stomping on the latter. FICofS will have no fair game policy and no security checks (except as part of an auditing program in which priest-penitent privileges attach). And it will forever abolish the disconnection policy! The liberal concepts expressed by LRH in the lecture, Attitude & Conduct of Scientology[2], will be applied in full.

    Exchange

    FICofS is willing to negotiate with the church fair compensation for its use of other trademarks and copyrighted (pre-Miscavige-altered) materials necessary to deliver standard Scientology services and, if an impasse is reached, to submit the issue to independent mediation. * * * *

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    Reconciliation

    FICofS is willing to enter into negotiations for reconciliation with the church, now or in the future. The proposed guidelines for reconciliation are as follows:

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    The First Independent Church of Scientology.
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    [1] The “Bridge” is a chart that lists the various training and auditing levels of Scientology.
    [2] 4th London ACC, 3 November 1955.
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    Last edited: Jan 29, 2016
  18. AnonLover

    AnonLover Patron Meritorious

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    Did you feel that? It's the forthcoming lulzfest.
     

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  19. Churchill

    Churchill Gold Meritorious Patron

    If the first independent church of scientology manages to obtain 501C-3 status, would that make it easier or more difficult for the IRS to review/rescind cos and related entities tax exempt status?
     
  20. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    If the IRS grants 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology, it would make it more difficult for the IRS to rescind COS and related entities on the ground that Scientology is not a religion.

    If the IRS grants 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology, it would have no effect on the ability of the IRS to rescind COS and related entities on other grounds (e.g., improper inurement, accumulation of assets, etc.).

    If the IRS denies 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology on the ground Scientology is not a religion, that would raise a major equal protection issue and, indeed, a shit-storm.

    If the IRS denies 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology on other grounds (e.g., improper inurement, accumulation of assets, etc.), that would not effect the 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status COS or related entities.

    My prediction is that if, or likely when, the First Independent Church of Scientology applies for 501(c)(3) status the IRS will continue to accept that Scientology is a religion, but carefully consider whether the FICS satisfies the other requirements (e.g., no improper inurement).

    I am NOT saying that the IRS SHOULD again determine that Scientology is a religion. I am predicting that it WILL do so to avoid being attacked for being inconsistent, avoid major litigation with the COS, etc.

    Quite frankly, the easiest and safest thing for the IRS to do is to grant 501(c)(3) status to the First Independent Church of Scientology as long as they do not screw up their application, finances, accounting, etc.
     
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