Glenn Samuels - Ten Gross Errors in the Free Zone and Independent Field

[CommunicatorIC]

Ten Gross Errors in the Free Zone and Independent Field
http://blog.scientologyrecovery.com/ten-gross-errors-in-the-free-zone-and-independent-field/

Short list courtesy of WWP summary:

1. Unqualified and untrained in Scientology.
2. No case supervision.
3. Not sharing folders.
4. Lack of integrity.
5. Roteness.
6. Upper level breaches.
7. Petty jealousies and name calling.
8. Pretended differences in theology.
9. No Central Governing Body.
10. Lack of Charity and Cold heartedness.
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Read the entire post.

More info on Glenn courtesy of WWP:

For those not familiar with this blog - this is not your ordinary indie sight. Glenn still dabbles in Scientology auditing but only when requested by his clients. But he also he does his own thing that aligns closer with mainstream psychotherapy techniques and standard cult recovery practices.

Yes, he is a self taught counselor & not licensed. But he has a certain straddle-the-fence appeal for those newly out where he guides them out from under the kool-aid spell and into the no-scientology-needed-here world on a gradient scale similar to the way they get sucked in. And unlike Marty he is NOT a hardcore fan of Hubbard and has dissed him severely on occasion. Plus Glenn has been openly discussing the downside/shortcomings of Scientology and all the harm it inflicts on people for much longer than Marty has.

 

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. . . Mental therapy can be extremely dangerous in untrained hands. It takes extreme care, knowledge, and a responsible person to guide a case through the morass of mental and spiritual difficulties. Errors in therapy can cause suicide, or its ideation, accidents, injuries, illnesses, life upheavals, and death. The poorly trained have caused this since the inception of Dianetics and Scientology in the 1950s . . .

. . . Writers like Marty Rathbun and me have been called “squirrel” and were accused of treason for “mixing practices” because we dared to write about other religions violating Scientology dogma. In my case I wrote stories about Hubbard that did not treat him regally which caused heinous disconnections from legalistic and narrow minded independents . . .

Scientology - its a dessert topping AND a floor wax. And, surprise surprise, its never the Tech which contributes to any ill effects, its the person - in this case, those who have been poorly trained. Seriously though, anyone who thinks that a person escaping Scientology needs more Scientology exhibits a lack of care, knowledge and responsibility. And then there's the little matter of wog-style ethics, standards, and accountability. Its all very well for grown adults with access to all the information and the clarity of mind which comes from living outside a cult environment to make an informed decision to slurp the KoolAid, but people fresh out of the mind fuck? I think not. Escapees, especial SO and, perhaps staff, are particularly vulnerable. They need protecting from hungry predators who know exactly what buttons to push in order to implement "exchange" and impose the level of control required to get people back on the hypno-cans.

Interesting to see another call for ARC-driven unity and the establishment of some sort of formal organisation to police the the scene, harvest data, and share out the loot. Scientology, of course, will be happy to have a single target and database to infiltrate while the escapees could end up facing the mind fuck equivalent of double jeopardy.

<sigh> . . . why don't those who want to audit outside the cult just go and get some formal training so they can at least be licensed? Oh, right, I know.

 

[Terril park]

Ten Gross Errors in the Free Zone and Independent Field
http://blog.scientologyrecovery.com/ten-gross-errors-in-the-free-zone-and-independent-field/

Short list courtesy of WWP summary:
Read the entire post.

More info on Glenn courtesy of WWP:

Glen is the opposite of self taught. He worked with Hubbard on the Apollo
and is class XII and was on the first NOTs course.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Glen is the opposite of self taught. He worked with Hubbard on the Apollo
and is class XII and was on the first NOTs course.

None of which amounts to bupkis among professional counsellors. Ask David Mayo.

Get over it, TP. Scientology may have much that is useful included in its mix. That is likely due in large part to the cooperative approach taken in the early years of development. Yet hubbard was not in any way a credible source. What he apparently did have were interpersonal skills which made it relatively easy for him to audit others despite his oft reported own failures to observe good auditing practices.

Scientology technology owes much to chance, little to science, and even less to hubbard's knowledge or personal insight. That so much there is potentially useful is a happy circumstance arising principally from its initial collaborators and contributors, not the work of a singular "great man".


Mark A. Baker

 

[Commander Birdsong]

Ten Gross Errors in the Free Zone and Independent Field
http://blog.scientologyrecovery.com/ten-gross-errors-in-the-free-zone-and-independent-field/

Short list courtesy of WWP summary:
Read the entire post.

More info on Glenn courtesy of WWP:

hey!

look at that!

"charity" used in it's king james sense

you don't see that too often in this modern world

i can't pay attention to everyone all the time but if you are into this guy he's probably worth your time

 

[Mark A. Baker]

hey!

look at that!

"charity" used in it's king james sense

you don't see that too often in this modern world

i can't pay attention to everyone all the time but if you are into this guy he's probably worth your time

Just for you, Birdie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4625W-qXI0o


Mark A. Baker