My apologies if a thread on this subject already exists. I searched for one and didn't find one. So I figured it's ok to start one. Hopefully, your posts will help me figure why I was so completely dumb in even accepting the concept of "Hidden Standards". In my opnion, and in retrospect, this is a major part of the scn mindfuck / brainwashing tech. Its perfect. It completely precludes a person from ever questioning if "the tech" actually works. The Hidden Standard idea is that the person is judging the effectiveness of "the tech" against an expectation. For example, if you imply that "the tech doesn't work because OT VIII's can't knock off hats at 50 feet", its not because the tech doesn't work or that hubbard is a liar, its because you're PTS and have a Hidden Standard. Why in the world could I not see that when I was "in"? Its so friggin obviously a con, its embarrassing to admit I fell for it.