Members of the Nation of Islam are practicing the religion of Scientology

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  1. triumph

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    Supreme Technology=Scientology
     
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  2. CommunicatorIC

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    While I have no evidence, I believe the the Scientology Scriptures are being donated by the Church of Scientology or, perhaps more likely, another, wealthy Scientologist for the benefit of NOI members. This would not be unprecedented. See:

    Louis Farrakhan, Leah Remini, and a document that helps explain the Scientology-NOI pact

    https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/10/l...-that-helps-explain-the-scientology-noi-pact/

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    As of April 3, 2018, Nation of Islam Sister Amatullah Sabreen had FIFTY (50) sets of Scientology Scriptures to donate to members of the Nation of Islam FOR FREE. Each set is valued at $3,500.

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    As of four days ago, Nation of Islam Sister Amatullah Sabreen was still donating free sets of Scientology Scriptures to members of the Nation of Islam.

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  9. CommunicatorIC

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    Nation of Islam Sister Amatullah Sabreen was kind enough to provide us with her notes from the First International Black Scientologists Convention, as well as for Rev. Alfreddie Johnson's Sunday Service at the convention.

    Edited to add: HMLF = Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan.
    Messenger = Elijah Muhammad.
    Minster = Minister Louis Farrakhan

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BiOOJ5VgJUG/?taken-by=amatullahsabreen


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    Communicator IC posted this video on Tony's blog today


    its freezes up and is difficult to watch on You Tube..
    the Long Winded Minister Wesley Muhammad is part of the Executive Council
    an part of the NOI's Research Group..Heh!

    Farrakhan was enturbulated by the National Review article by Bethany Mandel April 2 2018
    The Troubling Connections between Scientology and the Nation of Islam
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/scientology-nation-of-islam-troubling-connections/

    so they are sending Dr Wesley to quell the rumors..and hes traveling from Mosque to Mosque tell everyone Louie doesn't get a penny from Scientology..

    its the last 40 minutes of the video ..when He starts in on Bethany Mandel
    its a Jewish conspiracy ,What isn't with the NOI...

    its Time for an IRS audit..

    4500 on the bridge.. better get life vests

    there are internal problems in the House of Farrakontology
     
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    I will get some hate mail in my inbox from the Noi on you tube...

    cut the last 40 MINUTES INTO 4 VIDEOS..



     
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    VIDEO: Nation of Islam Minister Wesley Muhammad attacks "satanic Jews" [at 19:00] and Bethany Mandel [@BethanyShondark] [at 26:55] regarding her National Review Online article "The Troubling Connections between Scientology and the Nation of Islam."

    Quotations adding content, retweets and replies most welcome.

    https://twitter.com/IndieScieNews/status/998375540670087168

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    Scientology Class V Auditor Nation of Islam Brother Alexander Ofori-Muhammad has audited his fifth PC to the Scientology religious state of Clear.

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    Nation of Islam Minister Wesley Muhammad's view of Scientology on January 17, 2016.

    Minister Wesley Muhammad is a significant figure in the Nation of Islam. He received a Ph.D. in Islamic Studies from the University of Michigan (Ann Arbor). As I recall, he is member of both the NOI Research Group and the NOI Executive Council.

    HT: "Islamtology" on WWP: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/me...ion-of-scientology.132556/page-8#post-2627564

    https://www.facebook.com/wesleymuhammad/posts/10153854983934105

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    Wesley Muhammad

    January 17, 2016 ยท

    1.) A Dear Brother asked:

    " 'Scientology is not the language of Islam' what Does that mean?"

    My Response:

    "It means what the Apostle of God intends it to mean dear Brother. He is not happy hearing Scientology in the language of his ministers."

    The Dear Brother Replied:

    "I understand. Like the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad said to The Minister 'Don't teach it they way I taught it 40yrs ago. I want you to teach the meaning of it' uso I understand we should not because that can cause a misunderstanding. We should use The Language of our Islam and apply the technology of Scientology because in truth they are congruent. "Supreme Wisdom + Supreme Technology= Valuable Final Product (FRUIT OF ISLAM)
    Much Love & Respect sir!!!"

    My Response:

    "The technology that the Minister introduced us to that can make us better FOI was emphatically NOT Scientology dear Brother. It was the specific technology of Auditing. The Minister does NOT want us going over "the Bridge" of Scientology. Much Love and Respect Black God!"

    2.) A Dear Sister asked:

    "Question....is there any connection WHATSOEVER between NOI and scientology? I was told that the Minister uses some of their conditioning. I'm asking for myself....thanks in advance."

    My Response:

    "Thank you for your legitimate question. In seeking ways to relieve the Believers in the Nation of Islam from the tyranny and oppression from his Laborers that had become much too common, the Honorable Brother Minister Farrakhan introduced to his Laborers the particular technique of Auditing innovated by L Ron Hubbard. The Minister felt and feels (knows) that this technique can be helpful in lessening the emotional and thus the psychological burden of those in leadership in the Nation, and in so doing the burden of oppression and tyranny on the Believers would be lightened. The Minister thus required those of us in leadership - and ONLY those of us in leadership - to submit ourselves to this process of auditing. He never necessarily intended it for the non- Laborer, and he never intended any of us in the Nation - Laborer and non-Laborer - to "go over the Bridge" of Scientology, the religion. Nor is he happy hearing the language of Scientology in the preaching of his Ministers. We have our religion, and it ain't Scientology. It's Islam.

    Yes, many Muslims have dived deep into Scientology. But that is simply how THEY do THEIR Islam, and all of us have the right to do our own Islam. However, that is NOT how Farrakhan does HIS Islam. That is NOT the "Way of the Nation," it is just the way of some of those IN the Nation.
    I hope that helps dear Sister."

    Her Reply:

    "That was clear....your example is no different than FedEx (who I worked for) used military tactics and management to run its company....I got it."

    3.) A Dear Brother Asked:

    "Peace brother Wesley Muhammad have you watched this video? The Honorable Minister Farrakhan said this technology would help us manifest the Supreme Wisdom Lessons better. Let me know what you think great brother."

    My Response:

    "Of course I have seen that and the other videos Brother. But my perspective is not based on one or several videos that I maybe have taken out of context. My perspective of the Minister's sentiment is based on being there in person, by his special request, at the first meeting among the Laborers of Islam in which he introduced the technology of auditing to us, his Laborers. My perspective is born from sitting with him over the years since that meeting and hearing first hand his evolving perspective on the Church of Scientology and the impact on the Believers, which he is not happy with.
    The Minister said in this video what he has said from the beginning: the technology of AUDITING will help us the Laborers manifest the Supreme Wisdom, because unless we his Laborers free ourselves from our (personal) Demons, we can't resist being the Demons over the people that we had become. And we are NOT manifesting Supreme Wisdom properly as Demons. According to his own words the Minister NEVER wanted us - any of us - to go into Scientology. While L Ron Hubbard can be considered a scientist in his innovation of the technology of auditing, with Scientology he started to "make stuff up".

    As a National Laborer myself I have submitted to the process of Auditing as instructed, and I absolutely see the value in the specific technique and the Wisdom in the Minister's instruction to us.

    The Minister is not happy hearing the language of Scientology from the rostrum. Suffice it to say Brother, the Minister wanted his Laborers audited so that our demons would be exorcized; he NEVER wanted the Laborers or the Believers running around with a "Scientology Islam".
    No sir. He did not and does not."

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    when Scientologist say your a Scientologist your a Scientologist in the eyes of a Scientologist

    Bobby Buck is a Scientologist..... he further states Farrakhan Is an apostate of Elijah Muhammad...
    an apostate is one who has abandoned one's religious faith

    posted with the link to
    Farrakhan Speech: 'Jews Are My Enemy,' 'White Folks Are Going Down'
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/26...jews-are-my-enemy-white-folks-are-mark-tapson


    Bobby Buck drinks the Scientology Kool-Aid...
    https://www.facebook.com/BobbyBuck


    his You Tube
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfA2AOiekekiSQZ1RdhOM8A



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    spot the 4 Scientology front groups Bobby Regularly promotes ... win a prize

    see Bobby Buck to collect:
     
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