Mike Rinder's brother Andrew on Opening of Scientology Sydney Continental Org

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Mike Rinder's brother Andrew on Opening of Scientology Sydney Continental Org.

    Mike Rinder: The Kool Aid Drunks
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/sydney-2/

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    Leaked e-mail:
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    FWIW, I find Mike's post poignant. It can't easy to confront the fact that your brother is "the poster child for KoolAid drunks."
     
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  2. HelluvaHoax!

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    ..

    I particularly like one poignant sentence in that promo letter:

    "An Ideal Org IS an island of sanity."

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    Island of Sanity -idiom. 1. A safe space where delusional cult members can be efficiently bankrupted by predatory cult salesman who promise them non-existent supernatural states.
     
  3. Thrak

    Thrak Gold Meritorious Patron

    yup
     
  4. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

  5. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    Most of the Aussies know Andrew.
    He's not a bad dude at all, just misguided in his Beliefs. :)
     
  6. Rmack

    Rmack Van Allen Belt Sunbather

    Without being distracted by outside sources of non-sanity.
     
  7. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    most of the comments stated on Mike's blog state that.

    if one cares to read them.
     
  8. FoTi

    FoTi Crusader

    Those poor deluded souls, living in their alternate reality. :sad:

    May they wake up soon.
     
  9. Karen#1

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  10. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    I doubt that he had much choice in that matter, Karen. What a terrible thing it is when scientology sets family members against each other.
     
  11. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    Or allows them to die.
     
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  12. HelluvaHoax!

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    The above 2 posts made me wonder: What were you last lifetime, a Nuremberg Trial defense attorney?

    Let me guess number #3: He was just following [STRIKE]orders[/STRIKE] the command channel?
     
  13. BunnySkull

    BunnySkull Silver Meritorious Patron


    Also, things are different today thanks to the Internet. Andrew is choosing to remain ignorant and in the thrall of the cult. He could simply get on the Internet, which he carries around access to in his pocket everyday, or better yet listen to his own damn brother who worked closely with DM for decades! He thinks DM, who has disappeared every notable CoS exec and his own wife, is to be believed over his own brother?!! He purposely prevented Mike from visiting his dying mother. Sad and inexcusable. His brother has smacked him in the face with the reality of CoS yet he continues to close his eyes to the truth and follow DM's marching orders.
     
  14. David C Gibbons

    David C Gibbons Ex-Scientology Peon

    See, Dave, that's the wonderful thing: when you have no scruples, or are in mortal fear, you can do things like turning family members against each other without a second thought. That's the danger of dealing with Scientologists - they may look like decent people, and they may talk a good game, but they may do the most disgusting things because they believe their cause is just, or because they are in mortal fear of retribution from Scientology itself, or both.

    Of course, this situation is not unique to Scientology, various cults or 'religious leaders' have manipulated their followers for millennia to commit the most heinous of crimes in the name of [fill in the blank], or in fear of eternal [fill in the blank].

    The difference now is that more people are seeing what Scientology is really like because of places like this on the internet, and that is helping to break the power of Scientology over its followers. One can only hope that the internet is also helping break the power of Imams, 'Christian', 'Buddhist' , or any other spiritual leader who abuses faith to harm others, or cause others to harm others.

    Faith is incredibly powerful, and incredibly dangerous. When someone like Hubbard, Miscavage, or their lieutenants abuses it, the results are appalling, as we have seen.
     
  15. Free Being Me

    Free Being Me Crusader

    Interesting contradiction. Good times had by all.
     
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  16. HelluvaHoax!

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    LOL

    Another glaring contradiction in Panda's posts (above) is this:

    (quoting)

    "I'd have thought it was obvious that anyone who stuck at scientology for any length of time must have, at least, thought that (they) were getting something of value in exchange for their time and money."

    "ESMB, these days, seems to be mostly peopled by posters who've written the whole thing off as a bad experience, those who got little or nothing from scientology and/or those reluctant to even answer up questions about any benefits they think they may have received through their participation in scientology."

    Imagine for a moment that the cult being discussed was not Scientology but, instead, Jim Jones' "Peoples Temple".

    The members of that suicide cult also thought "they were getting something of value in exchange for their time and money".

    But at least Panda is 1/2 right. The 909 members who died at Jonestown (including over 300 children who were murdered) are "reluctant to even answer up questions about any benefits".

    However, there appears to be a good reason why they are "reluctant to answer up".

     
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  17. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    Hey, I have an idea!
    Instead of Redemption and Forgiveness this Easter let's all do some Panda Bashing! :hysterical:
     
  18. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    funny.

    dude, you opened up pandora's box. :hysterical:

    But no matter, I luv yah, as a friend and for posting. :thumbsup:
     
  19. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    Thanks, mate. Yes, I did open it up by being so damn reasonable about those pesky scientologists and allowing that many people get something out of their time in scientology. That's just me being reasonable and making allowances for people. I do that all the time here on ESMB. :)
     
  20. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    No, were you one of those steely-eyed Prosecutors? :biggrin:
     
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