Needing auditor

Discussion in 'Freezone, Independents, and Other Flavors of Scien' started by rod707, Mar 14, 2017.

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  1. rod707

    rod707 New Member

    Greeting everyone!

    Why is it so difficult to find auditors in the Bay area California?. The ones I do contact have broken links, or dont respond.


    Seems as thou freezone is crumbling...


    Two people here need auditing. We live in Vallejo. Willing to travel....Really really need to get an auditor.


    Rod
     
  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

  3. rod707

    rod707 New Member

    I'm getting this....

    rod707, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

    1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
    2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
    Can you help?
     
  4. rod707

    rod707 New Member

    Thank you it works now!
     
  5. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    I know someone in the bay area. Unfortunately my
    yahoo mail isn't working properly. I'll probably be able
    to contact him tomorrow.
     
  6. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    There is truth to this. I have heard recently of a notable Freezone auditor who "retired" recently. I'm sure there are others.

    Many of these people were old-timers who got squeezed out or declared, and then went on to practice independently but now are just getting old and maybe not into it anymore. That and probably harrassment makes it not worth it.

    So many Ind. groups have come and gone. I don't think the Tek holds up all that well outside of the strict, controlling system Hubs designed.
     
  7. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime


    It hasn't held up too well inside there either.
     
  8. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    It's true. In the CofS there's a technical hierarchy that brooks little disagreement. In a FZ group, where there is a disagreement over some tech point it's hard to sort out: the only realistic solution is to have a guy in charge who holds a my-way-or-the-highway stance. Been there done that.

    Paul
     
  9. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime


    According to the HellavaHoax Hubbard Law of Commotion that makes a lot of sense. And any chosen stance would be valid according to scipture.

    (Pick the made-up word :) )
     
  10. rod707

    rod707 New Member

    Greetings, its the newbie again,


    I was expecting my earlier post to get flamed. I am happy that I received this helpful attention. Of course Im still waiting to hear from the hundreds of FZ auditors to bid on my case.


    The response also serves to alarm me that I am getting some agreement that the Freezone is not very prevalent. Just to use a kind word.

    Cheers,

    Rod
     
  11. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    What do you think about the way PC Folders are handled in the FZ? The Church makes members sign an agreement that the folders belong to the Church and they give the impression, which we know to be false, that there is some kind of professional confidentiality.

    I expect most independents have no professional certification or degree or board oversight and therefore no doctor patient confidentiality.

    Who does the CSing and do they have any professional certification or legal oversight?

    Who and where are folders stored and who has access to them? What happens to them if there is a cessation of communication or the PC dies or cannot be contacted?

    Do you have any control over how the information is transmitted? If it is put into digital form then it can be hacked or distributed more broadly than one might want.
     
  12. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    Hey Rod,

    The PaulsRobot entry-level (more or less) version is at www.paulsrobot.com and will give you unlimited free sessions 24/7. It's not a joke and works surprisingly well if you follow the instructions.

    The comprehensive (and still free of charge) PaulsRobot site at www.paulsrobot3.com does include some modules as close as possible to the Scn originals (Ruds, L1C, 20-button prepcheck, Exp ARC S/W, Exp Grade 0, Ext/Int stuff, etc). The non-Scn modules there tend to work better, Scn being so outdated now, but anyway, whatever floats your boat.

    Example only. Here is the first L1C question. Of course for a proper session you would start in the right place, read the instructions, and so on. This is just to give a taste. Have the audio on (not too loud).

    http://paulsrobot3.com/scn/ruds/L1C-q01-question.htm

    www.paulsrobot.com is mobile-friendly. www.paulsrobot3.com needs a larger screen.

    Paul
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2017
  13. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Would it be an intrusion to ask, specifically, about the reason for so seriously needing an auditor?

    Are Review or Repair actions desired?

    Restimulation in life?

    Unflat old sessions?

    Or is there a wish to do further levels, or complete a level?, such as concern about being Clear and having not done OT 3 (being in the "no interference area")?

    [​IMG]

    Often, with a little discussion with an experienced person, the seemingly urgent need may cease seeming to be so urgent or serious.

    There are some very experienced people here who may be able to help.
     
  14. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    The purpose of this site is to be a welcoming haven for ex-Scientologists.

    Some have walked away completely. Some have decided that there is still value in the Tech, and it's only Management that is the problem. We welcome both. This does not mean that you won't get the opinions of those of us who have decided the whole thing was a con, and LRH was a superlative liar.

    Welcome aboard, regardless.
     
  15. Roland ami

    Roland ami Patron with Honors

    I'm in the Monterey area. What are you looking for in the way of auditing?
    The FZ is indeed very fragmented, with no overall control and no way of disciplining or correcting anyone. As far as I can tell, most of the input to it is either ex-Scn people who are looking to get their cases sorted out after being beaten up in the COS, or a very few new people who wonder what might be under all that garbage that keeps people still interested and looking, despite the awful PR.

    Just so you know, expect auditing to cost some serious money, or some serious time, or both. There are still some places you can go coaudit after training - I'm considering setting up such a situation myself.

    Roland
     
  16. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Those are some important questions you've asked, worthy of their own thread imo.

    If a FZ Scientologist gets into a dispute with his auditor, what's to keep the auditor from threatening to upload his clients "confidential" PC folder up onto the internet?

    I do know of an individual who was in fact threatened by their auditor. Not with the release of confidential info as in the hypothetical example I gave, rather he was threatened with physical harm.

    Hey Rod!

    :welcome2:
     
  17. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    too funny Rod :thumbsup: and ROFLMAO

    I'll bid on your "case", just read Dianetics and get a partner to do the same, and in a few hundred hours you will be both "clear". Afterall the COS is still selling that book DMSMH, simple easy peesy. LOL

    Cheers
     

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