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  1. Out Ethics

    Out Ethics Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    good post and thank you.....The divorces in Scientology are really unbelieveable. I did not know this was not normal...until I met some people from other "churches" and they don't know many people who get divorced ....but in Scientology - divorce is SOP...

    The Chaplain and EO want the Scientologist to get the divorce over with without any courts or HE& R - so if you were naughty - you will pay and pay and pay....I know - it happened to me too....:p

    Guilt is a built in mechanism in all human beings....Scientology capitalizes on it...

    If you do something wrong - it is amazing how the Tech leads you to punishing yourself....hard!

    I know of a Scientologist whose wife divorced him.....after she was caught having an affair .... and he had to pay her 1/2 of his income for eternity....

    He blamed himself that she had the affair.....he was always gone....

    so it all depends if you feel guilty or not...

    Scientology teaches you that "you pulled it in" and this fucks with peoples minds...it is so cruel...

    if you feel bad about a mistake you made - you will offer yourself up as a martyr....and hang yourself on the cross...or hang yourself...as some Scientologists have done :(

    Other churches do not act like this. My friend - who is catholic - just goes to confession in a booth - for FREE. Tells their sins to a Priest - who does not see who the person is...nice and confidential...just get it off your chest. The worst thing that comes out of that is the person may have to say a few hail Mary's and Our Fathers...but THAT IS IT! Done!

    Scientology - will not only make you pay for transgressions in this lifetime...it will also make you pay for transgressions you think you did in past lives too...which is all fabricated by you and your imagination...

    Scientology MAA's are trained at Flag to comb the folders and find something the Scientologist did to make them pay FLAG - this happened to quite a few people. One guy had an affair when he was 18 with a married woman...he got that overt off and years later - FLAG picked open that scab and wanted him to pay... he left Flag and never went back...eventually left Scientology and I think he got declared (which is a badge of honor).

    Flag - what a bunch of Fuckers!

    Scientology is Fucking Cruel and Fucking crazy!
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  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    In a Scientology divorce, a lot depends on who the org values more. The spouse who is easier to get regged, or who is on staff, will generally get the better treatment. One woman I know got offloaded from the SO with her toddler. Her husband who stayed in the SO paid her no child support. She couldn't even apply for welfare, because the welfare authorities would have gone after him for child support for her.
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  3. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

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  4. I beleive its all about indoctrination...they start off small..with TR's and bullbaiting...which are built to train you to have no reaction regardless of what is thrown at you. That is the first step in a long line of processe for getting you to suppress and disconnect from your feelings and thoughts. After supressing your own feelings and thoughts, then they are replaced with all church thoughts....and your monitored to make sure all church toughts are good, if they arent good thoughts about it, you are punished(ethics conditions, or paying for more auditing, sec checks)... Ultimately your own thoughts/needs are brought so far to the back of priorities...it becomes difficult and scary to think anything but what they tell you to. [​IMG]
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  6. Cat's Squirrel

    Cat's Squirrel Gold Meritorious Patron

    "Scientology MAA's are trained at Flag to comb the folders and find something the Scientologist did to make them pay."

    I wish just this one fact was better known about the CofS - there are no secrets in the auditing room. You might think that that guilty secret that you got charge off talking about is in the past, but once it's in your case folder it can be used as ammunition against you any time it's in their interest.
  7. Onkel

    Onkel Patron

    This makes so much sense! But if you were to say this to a scientologist they would dismiss it for sure - the guy was a psychiatrist, right?
    I know my ex girlfriend, who is in, doesn't believe in anybody in that field. According to her they are all making things worse and don't have any insights on the mind.
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  8. Arthur Dent

    Arthur Dent Silver Meritorious Patron

    A little late in welcoming you out, OE, but :welcome2: out! Let the fun begin!
  9. Out Ethics

    Out Ethics Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    Thank you Arthur. I cannot say I am having fun because my family is in deep and drinking that tainted poisonous koolaide, especially my mom.

    I hope the new year brings me some really good luck to get my family out of this fucking, evil cult.

    I am afraid my family will sink with the ship. Scientology is such a total and utter failure.
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  10. anon1

    anon1 Patron

    It is depressing isn't it? What seems so obvious to us now, cannot be grasped by those we love who are still in. You can literally go to an archive building, carbon date AND take a photo of the actual military records of LRH exposing his lies, take them to your family and they still won't believe it. They will believe the government forged them. You could even show them that website says they have, what is it, like 170 orgs & missions? And that just by that number alone if you have 150 (WAY over generous) public for every org PLUS an extra 5,000 at flag public & staff (cannot fill a 5500 capacity venue), the numbers would STILL linger in the 35,000 mark. You can show them maths, science and they still won't see it. But we're here if you need to vent.
  11. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    Call Hubbard whatever you want, he was a brilliant con man.

    He hit upon something fundamental, that there are a bunch of people who desperately WANT TO BELIEVE that they can be powerful and immortal, and will ignore any data to the contrary. Once you suck them in, they will devote their lives to the pursuit of this thin dream. They will sacrifice their children's future in pursuit of this dream. It is the dream that gives their lives significance and meaning, and they will give up anything else in order to maintain the dream.

    There's a book I found illuminating on the subject:
    The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements

    Although originally written in the 1950's, it is still relevant to today.
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  12. Out Ethics

    Out Ethics Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    I am so mad right now - another divorce in the tiny little Scientology group.....

    Another final product of "Scientology Services"

    One of the spouses just received some "services" and what happens after one receives a shit load of "Scientology Services" is they now have to point to the "WHO" ....that is causing them so much suffering (broken dreams and goals that never come true) and they all chose their spouse. It is SOP in Scientology. Fucking CULT! This couple has had nothing but financial ruin and struggling to support their family....they are die hard Scientologist's too.

    I hope to get the other spouse out. That is my goal for 2018.

    What I have noticed over the years is that Divorces are SOP in Scientology.

    Everyone that does a bunch of services is financially ruined, put in a state of confusion and their marriages destroyed.

    I am so tired of watching this.

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  13. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Hey Out Ethics, a very belated Welcome!!

  14. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    If one spouse is easy to get on service, and the other is not, they will assume the other spouse is out and "under the radar", and try to split them up before the "out" spouse infects the "in" spouse with any ideas. If the "in" spouse is the wife, and they can get a big divorce settlement from the other (which would immediately be grabbed by the reg) then that's even better.
  15. anon1

    anon1 Patron

    It's fucking disgusting. I have managed to get a friend who was actively doing services at Flag only 2 years ago to seriously doubting scientology. I personally find that being very open and pointing out statistics and scientific evidence was the best approach. I also just demeaned pretty much every scientologist we know. I know it's mean, but pointing out that these people have received hundreds or thousands of auditing hours and are still complete weirdos who don't base their lives on facts is helpful.

    For years I had left the church knowing that scientology didn't work for me but not thinking it was a con. What did it for me was seeing the documentation that LRH had lied about his wives, military records, education, scientific abilities etc
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  16. Out Ethics

    Out Ethics Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer

    You are spot on my friend. The truth will set those members who have some rational mind left....FREE.

    What I noticed over the years....

    There was what Scientology promised....and then what it actually delivered.

    Out Exchange and lies.

    I noticed how sane people (WOGS) were after my divorce and I dated a Wog....her life was amazing and her family - sane and rational.

    I was raised in this cult and all I saw was devastation along the dynamics for pretty much everyone. A few slipped through the cracks and were allowed to have a little money and live a little - as long as they toed the line and gave $$$$ constantly.

    But - the majority of $cientologists were financially ruined and their families destroyed.

    Only the die hard "believers" survive. My parents have koolaid coursing through their viens.

    What was the last straw for me....

    I noticed ALWAYS that Scientology never does anything wrong - it is always the members who get blamed.
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