Roger Jon Ellory, a Scientologist ?

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  1. kiwolah

    kiwolah New Member

    Hello guys,

    I'm a French journalist, inquiring on R.J. Ellory - he's a much praised author here in France. I'm trying to understand his role in Scientology over the years - I understood he was an auditor in Birmingham the 80s, but what now ? I read somewhere he was now HES ? Did any of you know him and might share a bit of your knowledge with me, so that we could expose the truth ?

    Best !

    Julien
     
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  3. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I did a google search and saw that someone commented on this article stating that " At 0.13, we see the famous author RJ Ellory " in one of these three Birmingham church videos:
    Birmingham in the House! Another Jaw-Dropping Scientology Video
    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/09/birmingham_in_t.php

    The comment states:
    He's also an Honor Roll member of the International Association of Scientologists ( IAS )
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/roger-ellory.html
     
  4. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    His wife is or was the public executive secretary - PES - at Birmingham Org
    A recent PR piece states:
    "
    Vicky Ellory, the Church's Public Affairs Director in Birmingham, said: "The planning still has to go through and it is quite hard to estimate exactly how long the restoration will take but I am hopeful that we will be in there 12 months from now. "
    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/SCIENTOLOGY+SECT'S+OPEN-DOOR+OFFER.-a0307945416
    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/scientologists-reveal-6m-plan-to-restore-298378

    Here is more on Vicky
    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/v/vicky-ellory.html
    http://www.scientology-london.com/brum/org/files/tag-vicky-ellory.php
    http://www.scientology-london.com/brum/org/files/category-vicky-ellory.php

    Roger used to be a staff member according to this comment. there is more info there but it's posted anonymously
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...or-fakes-his-own-reviews.104915/#post-2180417
     
  5. kiwolah

    kiwolah New Member

    Thanks for your help !

    I've caught a few pictures of him at a fundraising in 2011 for the new Birmingham HQ - the ones present in the video released. I also read a text he published in the Greenfiel School Blog last year. But I still don't understand if he's still a chief auditor, or if he has a different role... His wife Vicky, though, seems to be still a prominent figure, promoting these new HQ in the press...
     
  6. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I doubt he's a staff auditor anymore. He's a celebrity now... perhaps infamous in the current but a celebrity never the less. The idea is that as long as his wife is on staff, they are contributing and will give him some slack. What they try to do is use him to promote scientology and it's programs. I am sure they are 'handling' him for having faked his own reviews, thereby endangering the church PR wise, and his celebrity status
     
  7. kiwolah

    kiwolah New Member

    Good analysis. So he might just be off the regular staff, but still helping through other ways - especially financial ways...
     
  8. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I don't think he's current staff at all. Just his wife is. He's an auditor and might come in now and then to help out but staff are on 2.5 yr and 5 yr contracts and most can't wait for a way to get out of re-signing another one. No, if he's at the org, it's probably as a volunteer, now that he's a big celebrity..... but this is just my impression from experience with how that all worked when I was in Scn. Better to verifiy it by finding someone here who has been to Birmingham Org who may know someone with insider info.

    The guy who runs the Scientology-London website you mentioned, he would be abble to find out if anyone could.
     
  9. kiwolah

    kiwolah New Member

    Thanks AnonyMary ! I guess you're right on his current status. I've been trying to contact ex-Scn John Duignan, who said he had known him during his years in the cult. I hope he'll have time to answer me and give me more insight on his "active" years.

    He's often describing himself as dividing his time between writing and working in the field of drug rehabilitation. Since the man has been rewriting his own history several times, I was wondering if the latter part was a way for him to cover up his activities in Scn. I'll try to dig a little more on that.
     
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    If he is using drug rehabilitation as part of his rewrite of history, then he will have to rewrite that again. Drug rehab, scientology style is bad for public image now!
     
  11. Moosejewels

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    Rewriting one's history. Where have I heard that before . . . Oh yeah, the big guy was in to rewriting his history :biggrin:

    Sorry, couldn't resist. That is all, I'll move back into my trolldom now . . . :p
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  12. kiwolah

    kiwolah New Member

    Hello guys,

    Thanks again for your help and support !

    Would any of you know an exscn who might have been involved in the Birmingham or in the West Sussex section ? I'm now trying to link Ellory to the Narconon program, but it is hard to get solid evidence. Since I have no answer from John Duignan (aka JohnAnchovie), I'd need to find other people who might have known Ellory and his business over the years...

    Thanks anyway !
     
  13. kiwolah

    kiwolah New Member

    New elements found, inquiry on its way...
     
  14. kiwolah

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  17. Lulu Belle

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    That's hilarious...

    This is from the organization who is publicly soliciting non-Scientology actors to give Scientology success stories on video. :eyeroll:
     
  18. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Granted, thse are Google translations but but story is a semi PR puff piece, with only brief mentioning of Elory's Scientology history according to John Duignan and Haydn James and mostly giving Ellory a platform to promote himself and the virtues of scientology.

    RJ Ellory: 27 years in Scientology
    By Julien Bisson (Read), published 27/03/2013 at 12:30 , Updated at 14:36

    In its April issue, Read exclusive reveals the secret life of crime writer British high-ranking member of the sect since 1986.
    http://translate.google.com/transla...a=X&ei=asNmUYumJ8_e4AOFt4GQDA&ved=0CDQQ7gEwAA


    This one is a complete PR puff piece for Roger Ellory. . No mention of his writing his own reviews, trashing other authors anonymously. :

    RJ Ellory: "Scientology offers many practical ideas to help people"

    By Julien Bisson (The Express), published 27/03/2013 at 14:00

    Exclusive, Read reveals the involvement of 27 years the British writer in the Church of Scientology. RJ Ellory has agreed to explain his disturbing activities. Meeting.
    http://translate.google.com/transla...a=X&ei=vsNmUdOsDbHG4AOvsoD4Bg&ved=0CDQQ7gEwAA
     
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