Scientology under investigation in Kazakhstan

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Scientology under investigation in Kazakhstan.

    Kazakhstan Azattyq TV: In Almaty, initiated an investigation against "Scientology"

    http://rus.azattyq.org/a/27802151.html

    Google translation:

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    Almaty police has begun pre-trial investigation into the fraud on a large scale by the leadership and functionaries of the public association "Center of Almaty cultivation", reports the news agency "Interfax - Kazakhstan". According to police, the center refers to the Church of Scientology.

    "The grounds for pre-trial investigations were the complaints of former supporters of this organization of the receipt of their functionaries of large sums of money by abuse of trust in the provision of deliberately ineffectual services at an inflated price," - quoted by the press service of DIA of Almaty "Interfax - Kazakhstan". According to the Department of Internal Affairs, on Monday, 13 June at the organization's office some evidence was seized, whose names are not specified in the message.

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    "Church of Scientology" was deprived of Kazakhstan the status of a religious association after 2012 had failed to reregister.

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  2. oneonewasaracecar

    oneonewasaracecar Gold Meritorious Patron

    I've been waiting for this for a long time; for the non English speaking countries who have been infiltrated by Scientology to get wise.

    I wouldn't mind betting that the people in Kazakhstan are influenced by the actions of Putin, and the press and articles now in Russian.

    I look forward to this information permeating to the Taiwanese.
     
  3. CommunicatorIC

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    The article translated and excerpted in the OP is in Russian.
     
  4. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Scientology members in Pavlodar, Kazakhstan suspected of fraud.

    Scientology members in Pavlodar, Kazakhstan suspected of fraud.

    Google translation.

    Mir 24 TV: Pavlodar Scientologists suspected of fraud

    http://mir24.tv/news/incidentes/14583063

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    Head of the Department of so-called Church of Scientology in the Kazakhstan Pavlodar suspected of fraud. The homes and offices of members of the public association "Pavlodar center" Dianetics "raided, the agency Sputnik , the press center of the regional department of internal affairs.

    The basis for the pre-trial investigation of the complaint was the former adherent of the organization. He told law enforcement agencies, that the leadership of the church draws money from followers, providing deliberately ineffectual services at a higher cost (cleansing courses of psychos).

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  5. CommunicatorIC

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    If you search Google for the word саентологов (i.e., the Russian word for Scientology) and limit the search to one week, and click the "Translate this page" link,' you will efficiently find a large number of Kazakhstan web sites and news sources that are carrying the story.

    So far, they all seem to be telling the same basic story.
     
  6. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    just to give a visual:

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  7. CommunicatorIC

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    Scientology in Kazakhstan being investigated for "fraud on a large scale"

    Scientology in Kazakhstan being investigated for "fraud on a large scale."

    A bit more detail in this article. Again, Google translation.

    Caravan KZ News: Almaty Scientologists also suspected of fraud

    http://www.caravan.kz/news/almatinskikh-saentologov-tozhe-podozrevayut-v-moshennichestve-377813/

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    The bodies of the Interior conducted a pre-trial investigation into the fraud on a large scale (Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). Under suspicion leaders and functionaries of the public association "Center for cultivation of Almaty" (refers to the so-called "Church of Scientology", devoid of religion in 2012 godustatusa gluttony expert opinion on the Agency for Religious Affairs).

    The reason for the start of pre-trial investigations were the complaints of former adherents of the said organization. They paid large sums of money functionaries of the public association for deliberately ineffective services. And the cost was too high.

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  8. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Interesting. Stories above mention the city of Almaty or the city of Pavlodar, which are in very different parts of Kazakhstan. From Wikipedia:

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  9. Gib

    Gib Crusader

  10. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    In Pavlodar, Kazakhstan a criminal case is being investigated in relation to Scientology.

    It appears there are two criminal investigations of Scientology going on in Kazakhstan, or one investigation (or two coordinated investigations) of Scientology organizations in two different and, as noted above, geographically distant cities:

    Pavlodar Center Dianetics, in the city of Pavlodar; and

    Center of Almaty Cultivation, in the city of Almaty.

    The following article concerns Dianetics center in Pavlodar. Again, Google translation.

    Zakon KZ: In Pavlodar a criminal case is being investigated in relation to Scientology

    https://www.zakon.kz/4799825-v-pavlodare-ugolovnoe-delo.html

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    Department of Internal Affairs of Pavlodar region conducted pre-trial investigation for fraud (Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). Under suspicion functionaries of the public association "Pavlodar center" Dianetics "(refer to the so-called" Church of Scientology ", lacking in 2012 the status of a religious association an expert report of the Agency for Religious RK), said Zakon.kz with reference to the press service of the Department of Internal Affairs of the region.

    The basis for the pre-trial investigation of the complaint served as a former adherent of the said organization. He reported receiving functionaries of the organization of large sums of money for ineffective service at an inflated price (cleansing courses of psychos).

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  11. Gib

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  12. CommunicatorIC

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    Given that the Church of Scientology was "deprived" of religious status in Kazakhstan in 2012, why does the official Church of Scientology website list a Church of Scientology Mission in Alamaty, Kazakhstan?

    Code:
    http://www.almaty.scientologymissions.org/
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  13. mnql1

    mnql1 Patron Meritorious

    саентологов means “of Scientologists” and there is an alternate spelling: сайентологов. A search for multiple words will cast a wider net:

    Нарконон OR Дианетика OR саентология OR саентологии OR саентолог OR саентологи OR саентологов OR сайентология OR сайентологии OR сайентолог OR сайентологи OR сайентологов

    Explanation:

    Нарконон (Narconon) OR Дианетика (Dianetics) OR саентология (Scientology) OR саентологии (of Scientology) OR саентолог (Scientologist) OR саентологи (Scientologists) OR саентологов (of Scientologists) OR (alternate spellings) сайентология OR сайентологии OR сайентолог OR сайентологи OR сайентологов
     
  14. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens

    Scientology applying Suppressive Person Doctrine and Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.

    While the Google translation is far from perfect, the relevant facts are relatively clear.

    Exclusive KZ: Scientologists, businessmen, deputies, prosecutors and private matter Nurali A.

    http://exclusive.kz/scientologi

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    As it became known, our publication dated June 10, "Scientology in Kazakhstan" showed the leadership of the supervisory authority, and then search warrant "self Almaty Center" was issued on June 13 in the framework of pre-trial investigation in respect of its employees.

    Exclusive portal reporter recorded an interview with one of the affected Dina Tylevich. According to her, the other day, investigators seized a Scientology seven three objects "gazelle" of documents in paper and electronic media, as well as recording, "The E-meter" (similarity of lie detectors - Ed.) To the "confessions" of adherents of this cult. In total, it was seized in 2000 folders to be sent for examination. One of them was signed as "Nurali A" Scientologists hid carefully.

    For the half year stay with saentologo except for 120 thousand dollars given for getting super-powers, Dean lost in Scientology daughter Regina. Eighteen-year girl went to Scientology training in the US in May 2014 to an annual visa. When in December 2015, the couple went out of Tylevich cult daughter called him and said that he refused them because they are "suppressive person", the enemies of religion, which she chose. The girl lives in a two-year primary mission of Scientologists in the world, located in the United States (Florida, Clearwater). Regina, according to his mother, afraid to go home, because in the past year, her parents came from the Church of Scientology. Call the American mission to talk to the daughter - it is useless, calls the machine responds. Although Scientology has the right to exclude minors, if the issues with their parents "not settled", he says, they are antagonists. But in the case of Regina is different: it from the organization for some reason, do not rule.

    "I am sending Regina parcels, she wrote scouts are employees of special services abroad. They asked me to be quiet, because they have information that when parents are beginning to fight for their children, those secretly sent to numerous missions around the world, then they are simply impossible to find. Even if there is a mark in one country, it is to get permission to enter the mission, the child will forward to the next country, and so on ad infinitum. Even if to prove that the person sought has been in the mission, Scientologists will answer, they say, it is a free man and went wherever you want, without accounting to us. While those who escaped from the "Sea Organization" (US mission head Scientologists), they say that there are prohibited telephones and correspondence with relatives. Regina can not pay for their education in Scientology, and I do not send my money, so I believe that Scientologists hold it in America as a hostage "- said the mother deceived.

    How to tell the girl's mother, "the investigators showed to senior management how dangerous Scientology." "They are trying to delay to their senior politicians and well-known artists. On the sidelines of your stuff caused a great resonance. The prosecutor in the publication day gave the search warrant Scientologists. enforcement officers are afraid - after the publication of figures Almaty akim, who has no idea who the Scientologists, and they tried to use their photos with him. Baibek photographed Abdinova (head of Scientology Fund - Ed.) In 2010, and she became a Scientologist in 2011, he must have all the offensive "- shares his guesses Dean Tylevich.

    According to her, the investigator asked "not to raise the issue of the return of Regina before the investigative actions to be taken." "The investigation for some reason does not want to light the story of my girl, it is not clear - why. They keep saying, "Now is not the time", "this is our trump card", "they need to be a good catch." Sami security officers appealed to the US Embassy and our connected. Our bodies want to contact our Foreign Ministry, there have to write to America, that Regina is held in a criminal case, and then it will have to return home. In addition, Regina is in the US illegally on an expired visa, "- explained the details of Dean.

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  15. This is NOT OK !!!!

    This is NOT OK !!!! Gold Meritorious Patron

    Google translate seems to have the story pretty straight:

    Scientology in Kaz. promises super powers at huge expense and doesn't deliver.

    They steal the public's children and put them in the SO and then disconnect them from their parents.

    Sounds about right!
     
  16. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens

    More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.

    Again, Google translation.

    YTRO KZ: Scientologists illegally held in US 20-year kazahstanku

    http://ytro.kz/saentologi-nezakonno-derzhat-v-ssha-20-letnyuyu-kazahstanku/

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    "The worst thing is that I lost my daughter, Regina, her deception recruited to serve the Church of Scientology for a billion years, signed with me and my husband a contract. When we met with the mother of my husband Daniel, she invited us to her daughter Regina on OT is a holiday. The daughters then, in 2012, was 16 years old, she graduated from high school as "excellent" and wanted to enter the Medical Institute named after Asfandiyarova to save lives, "- she said.

    According to her, the festival she met with Scientologists-the same age, they told her that Scientology year gives supernormal conscious human control and treatment of his body that did not get over 10 years of higher education.

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    "She showed films and videos about the past life and the various" miracles "taken no worse than in Hollywood, in the end she believed in all this and began to ask for training to Scientologists in the United States, the city Clearwater Florida. She's my only daughter, a very intelligent, moreover Scientologists me convinced that it is not a religion but a science, and we do not have to give up Islam "- Dean added.

    The woman said that as a result of her daughter went to America in May 2014, and after she and her husband went out of Scientology, she called and refused them.

    "Leaving, Regina received a visa for one year, it has long been ineffective, moreover, it is our nationality, which may refuse only arrived in Kazakhstan. But Scientologists do not release it under any pretext. I hope now that the criminal case, it will cause in Kazakhstan through official channels as a witness or victim - still only be returned to me my daughter! "- Says the mother deceived.

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    Last edited: Jun 18, 2016
  17. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Thank you for this, it is very helpful. Using this I found the two Kazakhstan disconnection stories noted above.

    To search for future stories limited to the Kazakhstan disconnection aspect, I am adding the daughter's name - Регину. So far doing that find, and to date only finds, the two stories I found previously.
     
  18. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens

    More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens
    More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.

    Google translation.

    Nur KZ: Scientologists illegally held in US 20-year kazahstanku

    https://www.nur.kz/1162311-saentologi-nezakonno-derzhat-v-ssha-20-let.html

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    "The worst thing is that I lost my daughter, Regina, her deception recruited to serve the Church of Scientology for a billion years, signed with me and my husband a contract. When we met with the mother of my husband Daniel, she invited us to her daughter Regina on OT is a holiday. The daughters then, in 2012, was 16 years old, she graduated from high school as "excellent" and wanted to enter the Medical Institute named after Asfandiyarova to save lives, "- she said.

    According to her, the festival she met with Scientologists-the same age, they told her that Scientology year gives supernormal conscious human control and treatment of his body that did not get over 10 years of higher education.

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    "She showed films and videos about the past life and the various" miracles "taken no worse than in Hollywood, in the end she believed in all this and began to ask for training to Scientologists in the United States, the city Clearwater, Florida. It is I have only daughter, a very intelligent, moreover Scientologists me convinced that it is not a religion but a science, and we do not have to give up Islam "- Dean added.

    The woman said that as a result of her daughter went to America in May 2014, and after she and her husband went out of Scientology, she called and refused them.

    "Leaving, Regina received a visa for one year, it has long been ineffective, moreover, it is our nationality, which may refuse only arrived in Kazakhstan. But Scientologists do not release it under any pretext. I hope now that the criminal case, it will cause in Kazakhstan through official channels as a witness or victim - still only be returned to me my daughter! "- Says the mother deceived.

    Author: Manas Bistaev

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  19. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    Re: More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citiz


    Another wasted life for a pipe dream. I really hate scientology and the Sea Org children of the corn.
     
  20. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citiz

    I really feel sorry for the mother and father in this Kazakhstan Scientology disconnection case. We tend to think there is so much information now available about Scientology, but how much of that is in the Kazakh language or even Russian (assuming they speak Russian)? I think these people had no idea what they were getting into.
     

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