Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to know

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Does anyone here have any information?

    Tony Ortega: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver?
    http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/21/where-is-scientology-keeping-barbara-cordova-oliver/

    Excerpt:
    The WWP thread has curated excerpts from the discussion thread on Tony's blog:
    https://whyweprotest.net/community/...tology-keeping-barbara-cordova-oliver.116427/

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  2. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Cross-posted to Mike's blog as follows:

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/dare-to-think-for-yourself/#comment-32959
     
  3. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Cross-posted to the South African Independent Scientology blog, Scientologists getting back in comm, as follows:

    https://backincomm.wordpress.com/20...-wait-never-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-3405
     
  4. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Cross-posted to Marty's blog as follows:

    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/scientology-evidence/#comment-286620

     
  5. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    A critic called the Life Center for a New Tomorrow in Woodbury, TN, yesterday & all but confirmed Barbara is there. This critic spoke with owner, Scilon Marc Vallieres, who confirmed he was well aware of the situation with Barbara, had hinted that she was there, but said all inquiries about her had to be addressed through the Celebrity Center in LA, where her husband, Robert Oliver, is the Purchasing Director.

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/marc-vallieres/5b/165/754

    http://www.lifecenterforanewtomorrow.com/

    http://www.cchrstl.org/wordpress/2009/09/13/life-center-for-a-new-tomorrow/

    http://www.wysk.com/index/tennessee/woodbury/upwf7j6/gateway-to-freedom-llc/profile
     
  6. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    I must have a MU.

    Barbara is not in the SO. That means her husband, Robert, cannot be in the SO. The Celebrity Center in LA has a Purchasing Director, Robert, who is not in the SO? I thought the Celebrity Center was staffed exclusively by SO?
     
  7. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Out of concern for Barbara's well being and life I will say this.

    It is possible that her husband Robert does not know of the deaths associated with the use of L. Ron Hubbard's in-compassionate isolation tech know as the
    "introspection rundown" or baby watch. Sure, I know practically everyone reading this will know, but the cult of scientology members are often the last to know if they ever do know of the many deaths associated with scientology. Their communication level is such that they are restrained, restricted and coerced into not knowing such 'entheta'. More often than not they think the reason for not knowing is to protect their case and 'progress' up the bridge.

    That said, I wonder if there is a way for the TN board of health of whatever it is called, to require that Barbara's 'custodian' is presented with sufficient evidence surrounding the use such LRH tech and it's 'risk factor' so at least he is making a 'more informed' decision regarding his wife. I doubt that anyone who guided him into having his wife undergo such 'treatment' has fully informed him of the risks.

    Perhaps the health board could require the licensee to provide such 'historical risk evidence' to all its clients and custodians as part of the licensing requirements.
     
  8. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Per Tony O's blog.. "In 1997, she founded Artists for a Better World, a Scientology front group that worked out of the Hollywood Celebrity Centre. Through 2011, the group was holding awards ceremonies at the Celebrity Centre, and according to the group’s website, each time Barbara would give a speech about AFABW’s efforts."

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/21/where-is-scientology-keeping-barbara-cordova-oliver

    http://www.intelius.com/people/Robert-Oliver/0cnkq18kksd

    Barbara is listed as Barbara Joy Cardova in databases. Her mother's name is Allene Reisman Cardova (not Arlene) as published in Tony's article. I could find no record of Barbara marrying Robert Oliver.
     
  9. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Interesting, so it appears Barbara is not married to Robert Oliver. That means either there was some miscommunication, misunderstanding or "Scilon Marc Vallieres" lied when he "said all inquiries about her had to be addressed through the Celebrity Center in LA, where her husband, Robert Oliver, is the Purchasing Director."
     
  10. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    He does show as a "possible relative" here, and with the same home address: http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/barbara-oliver/147976422
     
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  11. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Not the same person. Robert's middle initial is E. http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/r/robert-eugene-oliver.html

    Barbara: http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/barbara-cordova/139484877 (5930 Franklin is the Celebrity Center)
     
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  12. koki

    koki Silver Meritorious Patron

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    but , all I understood from that critic, is that it was confirmed that he Knows Barbara...not that she is there...
    but I hope you are right Smurf....:thumbsup:
     
  13. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    I know both Barbara and Rob Oliver from when I was at CCI. They were newly together. I am pretty sure they got married while I was still there. They would have gotten married around 1997 or 1998.

    Sad to say though Barbara is a sweet girl, she seemed to me to always be a few cards short of a full deck. I hope she is ok.

    Rob would still be in the Sea Org. Maybe they have been separated or divorced. Divorce in California takes 6 months, so legally they may still be married. They will not be allowed to be married if she is out of the Sea Org.
     
  14. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Why do you think that? My knowledge of Barbara is that she was and has been a SO member for decades. And I believe she had several husbands as well. I knew Barbara pretty well decades ago but not in recent years. I remember going to a party or event at her mother's house in the Valley. She was married at one time to (Dave?) Jesperson or similar and there may have been another last name as well.
     
  15. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Thanks for the add'l info, Bea. I'm wondering if they're "marriage" was the result of a Scientology wedding with no legal marriage license attained. Tommy Davis is "married" to Jessica, although no marriage has been recorded (that I'm aware of) in California, Florida, or Nevada (Las Vegas).

    When Jess' father died, she was, supposedly, married to Tommy, yet Jessica signed probate documents with the court as 'Jessica Rodriguez'.
     
  16. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Dave Petit normally does the weddings for crew at CCI. He would have had to do the filing. He did not do the wedding of my husband of the time and I, because I wanted my auditor, Allen Hubbert to do it. But maybe whoever did the wedding did not file properly?
     
  17. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    I know for certain of at least one marriage where the ceremony was performed by a Scientology minister but the couple did not bother with the marriage license. When you live in a cult community where no one has children and no one owns anything, WTF do you need a license for???? No need to worry whether it is legal in the eyes of the state or a courthouse. When I was in, people got married in the SO the same way people date in the real world.
     
  18. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Tell me about it. My mom (Sea Org) has been married I think 8 times. Her wog family is so fed up they don't even send her a card congratulating her anymore.
     
  19. Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    people do die choice, in CoS and out...

    CoS "handling" of a "nervous breakdown" is usually better than the shrinks though in recent years the shrinks have been doing a "stabilize and release" thing which at least doesn't add to the difficulty. but CoS is mimicking the ignorance of the shrinks
     
  20. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Where is Scientology keeping Barbara Cordova Oliver? 80 year-old mother wants to

    Please take a look at what you just wrote and ask yourself if it made any sense at all? :confused2:
     

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