I had successfully gotten John and me off the CofS mailing lists years before we left and then got expelled, but very rarely, some mailings crept in. Somehow we got put into one of the LA ones with a kind of munged typo filled mailing address. Sooo...the other day a really really really nice gentlemanly guy called from LA. He wanted to know if we got a DVD they sent. He was so nice and he didn't ask about my status so I was just nice right back to him. I hadn't gotten the DVD so he was going to resend and then call us to see if we got it. I just didn't have the heart to unload on him or anything. He was so nice. So then last night I got a call from another person there- they mailed the DVD two days ago and wanted to know if I got it. I hadn't, and told them so. So they started asking when I'd been in and was I still doing this and that, believing this and that, etc. Well, I couldn't lie to them- or at least didn't want to. Nor did I want to unload on them and go blah blah cultie crap like some people sometimes say they do. So I said "Look, I'll be honest with you." and told the person my status. I told them about being expelled due to OSA's not wanting us to post to the net and that I was forbidden to even READ a.r.s. I told them about the handlings, and how I felt the church should honor its own creed. I also told the person I would not make them any wrong for still being in CofS- that's not my style though I also said "I could NEVER do what you do." Anyway, it was fine and all that. the person was pleasant, I was pleasant, I didn't unload or shriek or piss all over this person and I didn't get a bunch of self righteous you should do A to E and squirrelling is bad (I told the person I got auditing AFTER leaving CofS and that a process can be standardly done outside CofS) crap. So it was fine. But you know what? I cried 20 minutes after the call. And part of the reason was BECAUSE she was nice. I think that one never entirely loses the cult thingie...sorta like syphilis or herpes.