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Top 100 Stupid Moments in Scientology PART 4

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Scientology means 'scio', knowing in the fullest sense of the word and 'logos', study. In itself the word means 'knowing how to know'.Scientology is a 'route', a way, rather than a dissertation or assertive body of knowledge. Through its drills and studies one may find the truth for himself. The technology is therefore not expounded as something to believe, but something to 'do'.

Or...

Scheme-o = Knowing in the fullest sense of the word, with a little caveat the size or Arslycus, if there was such a place.
Logos = Study of, (with the exception or parishioners being able to study the truth about what they are studying.)
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
What was the official "church" position on the death of L R Haitch™*?

Might find a clue here:



L R Haitch™ "disgarded the body"

L R Haitch™ did this at "complete cause"


Now if that is not abject admission of L R Haitch™ suicide, I don't know what is.




* Trade Mark, strativarius, ESMB, circa 2019 et seq.
The official story was that LR Haitch HAD to discard the body because his research project had to be done in a fully exterior state without the impediment of a body.

That made me wonder about a couple things. When still a true believer I was led to believe that one could go OT and still keep the body. That way you can operate in both the MEST universe and the theta universe.

If Ron's research required him to causatively discard his healthy body than maybe some up and coming OT levels might also require participants to discard their body?

For those still inside the bubble and believing the official story, they've been set up to be part of a suicide cult should Miscavige want to go in that direction.

I know even amongst us ex-scientologists very few believe that that is a remote possibility. And I myself do not consider it a likely possibility.
But should COB wish to go in that direction, the stage has been set, at least for the most extreme true believers that buy in 100% to the official story.
While it doesn't really make any sense for COB to do such a thing, he has done many things in the past that don't make any sense.

As a hypothetical example, some S.O. member at a remote Sea Org base is called for a private briefing with COB, given an "r-factor" that LRH has released some OT rundown (with few prerequisites) and they've been chosen as one of the first to get onto it. It requires them to discard the impediment of a body of course. They're given a C/S which will accomplish that purpose but will leave no evidence that this was an "assisted suicide". It will appear as though the person chose to do it himself with no record that would incriminate COB.

Sorry if this post was disturbing. I think I had too much coffee this morning. :eek:
 

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The official story was that LR Haitch HAD to discard the body because his research project had to be done in a fully exterior state without the impediment of a body.That made me wonder about a couple things. When still a true believer I was led to believe that one could go OT and still keep the body. That way you can operate in both the MEST universe and the theta universe. If Ron's research required him to causatively discard his healthy body than maybe some up and coming OT levels might also require participants to discard their body? For those still inside the bubble and believing the official story, they've been set up to be part of a suicide cult should Miscavige want to go in that direction.

That could never happen in Scientology because it would crash the stats.

However, if senior management could do a survey and find the right tone-level and closing button to this question, COB might suddenly discover a piece of lost upper level technology:


IF COB FOUND A PREVIOUSLY LOST CONFIDENTIAL OT IX HCOB--
WHERE RON DISCOVERED THAT A BEING CANNOT GO TOTALLY
FREE UNLESS THEY SHED THEIR MEST ENCUMBRANCE AFTER
DONATING ALL THEIR MONEY AND MEST ENCUMBRANCES
TO AN ETHICAL CHURCH--WHAT WOULD THE PROMO PIECE
HAVE TO SAY THAT WOULD MAKE YOU VVGIS ABOUT
KILLING YOURSELF AND GIVING US ALL YOUR SHIT?


This is a "bright idea" that would both boom GI and terminatedly resolve pesky devT refund cycles.

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Yes. Very possible. No different than what is preached to suicide bombers.


The official story was that LR Haitch HAD to discard the body because his research project had to be done in a fully exterior state without the impediment of a body.

That made me wonder about a couple things. When still a true believer I was led to believe that one could go OT and still keep the body. That way you can operate in both the MEST universe and the theta universe.

If Ron's research required him to causatively discard his healthy body than maybe some up and coming OT levels might also require participants to discard their body?

For those still inside the bubble and believing the official story, they've been set up to be part of a suicide cult should Miscavige want to go in that direction.

I know even amongst us ex-scientologists very few believe that that is a remote possibility. And I myself do not consider it a likely possibility.
But should COB wish to go in that direction, the stage has been set, at least for the most extreme true believers that buy in 100% to the official story.
While it doesn't really make any sense for COB to do such a thing, he has done many things in the past that don't make any sense.

As a hypothetical example, some S.O. member at a remote Sea Org base is called for a private briefing with COB, given an "r-factor" that LRH has released some OT rundown (with few prerequisites) and they've been chosen as one of the first to get onto it. It requires them to discard the impediment of a body of course. They're given a C/S which will accomplish that purpose but will leave no evidence that this was an "assisted suicide". It will appear as though the person chose to do it himself with no record that would incriminate COB.

Sorry if this post was disturbing. I think I had too much coffee this morning. :eek:
 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
If Ron's research required him to causatively discard his healthy body than maybe some up and coming OT levels might also require participants to discard their body?
Well, yes . . . of course. With total and utter certainty.

Pat Broeker Official Statement (partial transcript) from LRH Death Event
(Has never been specifically refuted by the COS.)

"We also by the way have the... OT level... that is going to be done...​
immediately after every thetan, discards his or her body. He wrote that up​
before he went."
"Now this....don't take that as an invitation, because you​
don't get it til you're through with the OT level before it.​
But KNOW ....that...when it's time, the tech is there. So​
you're not... left with, "what do I do now?" or even having to figure it out​
for yourself. It's there. We're uhh..that will be written up right away.​
Cause we have that... umm... word for word, and it'll be archived and made​
uh...and made safe. And it will be eventually, available, at Flag, and other
AO's, and people will be allowed, to come into AOLA, [before they discard the​
body] read the materials, check out on them, be word-cleared, demo...​
so you know it! Now you know it! Now you're ready.. for when.. it​
happens."
Causatively and willfully discarding your body -- obviously -- will be an advanced
step if you're to follow LRH's carefully taped path and follow in his exact footsteps.

Just think about that for a minute if you will. It's so obvious. :shrug:
 
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Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Well, yes . . . of course. With total and utter certainty.

Pat Broeker Official Statement (partial transcript) from LRH Death Event
(Has never been specifically refuted by the COS.)

"We also by the way have the... OT level... that is going to be done...​
immediately after every thetan, discards his or her body. He wrote that up​
before he went."​
"Now this....don't take that as an invitation, because you​
don't get it til you're through with the OT level before it.​
But KNOW ....that...when it's time, the tech is there. So​
you're not... left with, "what do I do now?" or even having to figure it out​
for yourself. It's there. We're uhh..that will be written up right away.​
Cause we have that... umm... word for word, and it'll be archived and made​
uh...and made safe. And it will be eventually, available, at Flag, and other
AO's, and people will be allowed, to come into AOLA, [before they discard the​
body] Read the materials, check out on them, be word-cleared, demo...​
so you know it! Now you know it! Now you're ready.. for when.. it​
happens."​
Causatively and willfully discarding your body -- obviously -- will be an advanced
step if you're to follow LRH's carefully taped path and follow in his exact footsteps.

Just think about that for a minute if you will. It's so obvious. :shrug:
Thank-you for posting that. I actually forgot that particular part from the LRH Departure to Target Two event. I just watched that part of the event in the video I posted below.

The part which you transcribed is at the 14:50 mark of the video.

One of the things from the event that IMO should make ALL Scientologists question the official story told to them is at the 6:00 minute mark (and the minutes leading up to it). According to Pat Broeker, Hubbard knew that Broeker would be addressing Scientologists concerning all this. And he delivered a message to all Scientologists via Pat Broeker.

So Hubbard knew for YEARS that this time was coming, that he was getting ready to leave. And while he had time to write Battlefield Earth and Mission Earth, he couldn't take an hour to record a 'Ron's Journal', informing Scientologists of his plans, an update on the state of his research, who he would be turning over his various hats to, acknowledging Scientologists for the work that they've done, etc., etc.

It just makes zero sense whatsoever. It's not how Hubbard operated.
If he had something important to say he wouldn't use a via (Pat Broeker in this example). If he had something this important going on which concerned his research, the state of the "tech", and his departure, and he was causatively leaving (as he planned to do for years) , he wouldn't leave it to others to brief Scientologists.

That's just too much for even a true-believing Scientologist to accept as true. :faceslap:



 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
And while he had time to write Battlefield Earth and Mission Earth, he couldn't take an hour to record a 'Ron's Journal', informing Scientologists of his plans, . . . .
That was my question and major problem with it all from
the get-go, though stupidly I did soldier on for a bit longer.
That's just too much for even a true-believing Scientologist to accept as true.
Does anybody know what's told to new Scios nowadays when
they ask about what happened to Ron or where is he . . . the
official-official narrative (in writing), that is?

I wonder what the veterans and publics are saying to each
other nowadays. I'm clueless, having been gone for so long.
 

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That was my question and major problem with it all from the get-go, though stupidly I did soldier on for a bit longer.

Does anybody know what's told to new Scios nowadays when they ask about what happened to Ron or where is he . . . the official-official narrative (in writing), that is?

I wonder what the veterans and publics are saying to each other nowadays. I'm clueless, having been gone for so long.
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SCENARIO: A comatose cultist momentarily wakes up and thoughtlessly inquires: "Hey, where's Ron anyways?"

SCIENTOLOGY POLICY: All non-standard questions must be erased by a standard answer.


THE ANSWER IN 1951
"Ron is at sea. . . happily married to his 2nd wife!"
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THE ANSWER IN 1981
"Ron is at sea. There never was a 2nd wife!"
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THE ANSWER IN 2021
"Ron who? There never was a 2nd Source!"
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WARNING - WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ IS: tl;dr (too Lronhubbardish; didn't read)

SCIENO-SCENARIO: A chance encounter between two Scientologists that got on the Bridge together 4 decades earlier. Standing in a long line at Starbucks they both suddenly recognize each other. . .

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lier. Standing in a long line at Starbucks they both suddenly recognize each other. . .

BILLY BLOWDOWN
Is that you Jerry?!!


JERRY
OMG! Billy?! Wow! I haven't seen you since we were both
body routers back in 1969 in DC! Is that you Billy?


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Wow, yes, it's me! It's Jerry, right? It feels like I am
like blowing so much charge seeing you again! Hey, man
I always thought you were the most uptone, upstat, super-theta
being! Hey, where you been for the past 40 years?


JERRY
Well, I should kind of warn---er--uh, I mean "r-factor"
you that I have been off working on an ethics cycle.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Well that sounds amazing, it totally indicates to me that
you are taking total responsibility for it, whatever it is. You
were always the most ethical being!


JERRY
Yeah, well...so how about you?


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Well, I just recently finished objectives!


JERRY
Huh? Billy, we were co-auditing objectives back in '69.
My god, how many hours did you need?


BILLY BLOWDOWN
LOL, no, no, no. This is my Golden Age of Technology objectives.
People who ran only like 70 or 80 hours of "Look at that Wall" never
made it to full OT. Ron states that it takes 100 hours. This is the third
time I have done objectives, now that the Ideal Objectives were released.


JERRY
Well, that sound really--uh, standard, Billy.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
So, you've done your GAT and your Ideal objectives?


JERRY
Not exactly, like I say--I've been handling an ethics cycle.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
So where are you on the Bridge?


JERRY
I'm not exactly on the Bridge. Ya know---like I say,
I'm just, um---off handling an ethics cycle.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
If you don't have an FSM helping you get back on the
Bridge, I can help you get through your ethics cycle,
so I'd like to select you for GAT and IDEAL Objectives
and the rest of your Bridge up through OT X. Where did you
say you are on the Bridge again?


JERRY
Well, that's the thing. I'm not on the Bridge Billy.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Well, that's not a problem.Ron states that the only reason a being
blows is because of an MU. I'm a Hubbard Professional
Word Clearer and I can help you find the MU that caused
you to blow from your Bridge.


JERRY
Thanks, I appreciate it, but I don't have an MU.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
That's not a problem. Ron states that the only reason a being
blows is because of Overts. I am also a Hubbard Professional
Ethics Officer and i can help you find your crimes against
Scientology that caused you to blow from your Bridge.


JERRY
Thanks again, Billy. But actually I don't have any crimes.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
So what is it then? I mean you are losing your eternity, man,
what's going on? You went PTS? I happen to be a Hubbard
Professional SP Detection & Handling Specialist and i can
help you find your SP that is causing you to be off your Bridge.


JERRY
That's great Billy, but--um, I'm already handling it. Like I
say, I'm off on an ethics cycle.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
What ethics cycle? What's stopping you?


JERRY
It's an SP, Billy. But I am not PTS to them.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
That's impossible! How can you NOT be PTS to an SP?


JERRY
Because I am the SP. That's my ethics cycle. I was declared.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Well, do your A to E, man!!! What's taking you so long?!


JERRY
Because I don't want to do "A to E" and rejoin the church.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
No, there has to be an SP that you missed. You need to
spot the real SPs and disconnect from them.


JERRY
Actually there were two SPs that I missed. But then I spotted
Hubbard and Miscavige--so I applied standard tech and
standardly disconnected from them. That's when they declared me.


BILLY BLOWDOWN
But... um.....I mean...that that that that doesn't sound like
standard tech. Scientology's leaders cannot be SPs!


JERRY
Why not?


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Becaause...um...well...I mean....uh.................


JERRY
Yes?


BILLY BLOWDOWN
Well I can't think of the exact reason right now, but I'll
find the reference and send it to you. I'm sure in the green
volumes somewhere LRH states that declaring him an SP is off-policy.



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Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
That was my question and major problem with it all from
the get-go, though stupidly I did soldier on for a bit longer.
I remember sitting watching the event and for me it was surreal, and just the latest in a chain of events that caused me to have serious doubts.

But I didn't have anyone back at the time I felt safe talking to about my doubts, either inside or outside CoS.

I recall during several times like that where I'd get these gut feelings that something was REALLY wrong and I needed to get the hell out of there.
But then I'd have doubts creep in about my feelings, wondering if I was wrong about how I saw things, and there was some valid explanation for all that was happening that I just didn't understand yet. So I'd stick around longer as I didn't want to mess up my eternity should my feelings about the CoS be all wrong. :faceslap:

Hubbard was smart in not allowing Scientologists to discuss these types of doubts or even discuss their "case" with other Scientologists.
If we were all freely allowed to compare our observations and impressions with each other the CoS would have shrunk much faster than it did in the pre-internet days.

Does anybody know what's told to new Scios nowadays when
they ask about what happened to Ron or where is he . . . the
official-official narrative (in writing), that is?

I wonder what the veterans and publics are saying to each
other nowadays. I'm clueless, having been gone for so long.
I've been out since '89 and also am very curious about these types of things. We'll have to get some EX'es that are recently out over here in the thread and pick their brains.
 

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SCENARIO: A comatose cultist momentarily wakes up and thoughtlessly inquires: "Hey, where's Ron anyways?"

SCIENTOLOGY POLICY: All non-standard questions must be erased by a standard answer.


THE ANSWER IN 1951
"Ron is at sea. . . happily married to his 2nd wife!"
.
HUBBARD%201_zpsr7nbucdh.jpg



THE ANSWER IN 1981
"Ron is at sea. There never was a 2nd wife!"
.
HUBBARD%202_zpsoq2wjimp.jpg




THE ANSWER IN 2021
"Ron who? There never was a 2nd Source!"
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THIS%20ONE_zpsosss0kow.png


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THIS%20ONE_zpsosss0kow.png


I note that the asthmatic dwarf also failed to remove the condom from the handle to his right that ron's second wife started to unroll there before she was disappeared.
 

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Definitions from THE DB'S DIABOLICALLY DINKY DICTIONARY:


tech estimate - noun: 1. A certain number of dollars that you just make up and order another terminal
to pay you, if they ever hope to be happy. 2. The exact quantity of MEST dollars required to secure one's
eternity, calculated by totaling the aggregate of the being's cash, charge cards and liquidatable assets.
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celebrity - noun: 1. An incredibly elite, uptone & upstat VIP that is the recipient of untold love and admiration
from adoring fans. 2. Anyone whose bank account balance equals or exceeds their tech estimate.
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CULT CONUNDRUM: What technology do registrars use if a Scientologist doesn't want to donate several hundred thousand dollars for their OT levels?

DATA: In rare instances, a PC with counter/other intention will com lag and/or balk at surrendering their MEST universe money in order to secure their spiritual eternity. No matter how many times the PC is "briefed" and "r-factored" about the catastrophe that befell the Galactic Confederation 75 million years ago, they simply will not buy (figuratively and literally) the Xenu DC-8 story. Despite the PC being ordered to listen to LRH JOURNAL 67 more than a dozen times with metered word clearing and clay demos, the being nonetheless reactively refuses to pay for their OT package.

REG REMEDY: When the PC begins to physically wrestle with the gang-bang assemblage of Big League Closing Ministers who are guarding the exit doors---the chief registrar should:
1. Immediately dismiss the half-dozen or more registrars from the room.​
2. Discretely switch from scare-tactics, screaming intimidation & other entheta terrorism to the ARC triangle.​
3. Use the "A" corner of the ARC triangle ("affinity") to bring up the other two corners, to facilitate as-ising disagreement.​
4. Convert Xenu's DC-8 tech from dropping H-Bombs and alien DBs in volcanos---into dropping A-Bombs on credulous cult DBs (Defrauded Beings).​
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A-BOMB TECHNOLOGY
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WHEN IN DOUBT, AFFINITY BOMB!
(i.e. when anyone doubts Hubbard's Hoax, mock up and bury their
common sense with overwhelming numbers of acceptable love bombs)
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