Actually, I never stated that "Genetic Memory proves past lives." or any words to that effect.
The only BS here is you coming on the scene and lying about what I said. Which, in itself, is kind of sad.
And I'm intensely curious, who are "people like" me?
The video was the first video of my series dealing with History of man. The subject of the video was the past life material. I've heard the Genetic Memory argument - although not referenced by name - before as members of CoS have gone through a chain of logic to lend more credibility to the past life claims. The conversation was 5 months ago.
Perception being relative, and considering the topic of the video was past lives, it seamed clear to me that this is where you were going with that segment of our conversation. Transcript follows;
ScientologyWisdom
Also do some research on "genetic memory" before you go running your mouth and looking like an idiot.
13Heathens
You want me to research genetic memory? I'm familiar with it. It's a great tool used in science fiction actually.
Instincts passed down from generation via genetics hardly prove validity to actual ancestral recollection however.
Furthermore If you're to apply that logic to humanity there are massive inconsistencies between his whole track and the evolutionary path of man.
Please watch where you stick that foot, it doesn't belong in your mouth.
ScientologyWisdom
Genetic memory is factual. How do you think cells just "know" exactly what to do when injured or growing anew? It's like an organic computer program.
Sci-Fi, huh? Indeed, if you were to show someone from just a hundred years ago (1908) a day in the life of someone in 2008, they may say it was a sci-fi world. But our world does exist regardless of what someone may refer to it as and their disbelief.
And the "evolutionary path of man" is minute compared to full genetic memory.
13Heathens
Okay,it looks like I have a new playmate! fun fun!
You're talking Ancestral memory within those context, not genetic memory. So are we talking the psychological proposed aspect of Racial memory, cultural memory, past life regression from para psychology, epigenetic memory, cellular, or somatic? some have some accuracy, other's are speculated. Specify.
ScientologyWisdom
Don't get lost in semantics. Genetic Memory is just that...genetic memory.
That memory, with the right equipment and technology can be mapped.
13Heathens
It's not simple semantics in this case. There are huge differences between each form. You must be specific, much as I referenced ancestral memory in specific in my rebuttal.
Each category has different point on which to argue. Those passed by the genes for example can NOT contain information outside of the genome, as well as many of the instinctual memories would have been deactivated over the course of the evolutionary process.
Some parts are fact, others speculation. choose.
You'd actually came in with some of the best counter points I'd seen. Honestly you impressed me.
But Just as the conversation got good and I started to see some real insight (here's where the people like you comes into play) You left. You had two great counterpoints going, which I expected to have to admit defeat on (and was looking forward to it. Then you bailed.
You ran with what I interpreted as a rehash of the Genetic Memory = past life argument (not a great choice, the other points were stronger IMHO), and that was the end of it.
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I contacted you a few months later to say hello, and tried to touch base to see if you were alright. Not that it much mattered.
I'm not infallible and it would have been nice if you'd taken the time to finish the debate on the other conversation segments. I was looking forward to losing.
ScientologyWisdom
Have you used the tech?
Hubbard stated that Scientology was a workable system, not a perfect system.
The program of this universe (the matrix) is far from perfect, so therefore, the things inside of it will be flawed to an extent...some more than others.
13Heathens
Nope, and contrary to the words of Scientologists I don't need to use it to see the flaws in it. You're clearly new to my series. I've said several times Hubbard approached a great revelation several times, but each time he fell into his own obsessions taking a dramatic turn before reaching it.
ScientologyWisdom
In order to truly understand Scientology, one must use it....not just read about it.
I have used the tech and it can show you some interesting things.
It's very similar to the state achieved by various other practices and certain naturally occurring chemicals but much steadier.
But then you don't know because you haven't utilized it.
That one there ^ was a great counter argument. If you'd chosen that one to continue with I have no doubt you would have won the debate - to me its not a battle, merely a debate.
It took some time for me to get around to it, but I did eventually make a video regarding Genetic Memory..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3elGnRCbQ
I never forwarded it to you because of the hostility I received when I tried to touch base with you. That whole conversation had stuck with me because you walked away without finishing making your counter points.
You left me to make my assumptions based upon the context, and now you accuse me of lying.. Would you mind at least telling me where you were going with that counter point?